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Re: MCM - Digest V1 #291



----- Original Message -----
From: Charlene Nash <ecn@tennis.org>
To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 7:50 AM
Subject: RE: MCM - Digest V1 #291


> I am working on the brochure this week-it is done, ready to be put into
> brochure form and mailed and emailed next week.  Does anyone have the
> information on events listings in other magazines besides TAG and PAM?  I
am
> not familiar with fish type magazines-who can check on getting our event
> listed in them?

Advertising in the "Calendar Events" section of  TFH is free.  It's part of
their "Meeting Place" column which features aquarium society news.  We are
already listed under "General Notices."  The format is as follows:

                3 -5 November 2000
                    Chattanooga, TN
            The Aquatic Gardeners Association presents (or something
similar).....

The name of the oganization needs to appear first. All you need to do is
e-mail the notice to Mary Sweeney, editor of TFH at:  editor@tfh.com.  She
is in charge of  "Meeting Place."  I would ask for an acknowledgement.  IMO
this is the most important place to advertise because I think a lot of
hobbyists regularly check this listing.  Deadline:  the end of the month.

We have a paid ad in AFM already under "Aquarium Societies."  I could ask
them if they would be willing to change the ad for a few months.  Providing
the change is made by the end of the month, it would appear in the August
issue which comes out sometime in July.  Points of information.  Not many
societies advertise in AFM I would imagine due to the high advertising rates
as compared to FAMA and of course TFH which is free.  NEC doesn't advertise
in AFM.  In any event, it doesn't matter to me.  If the group wants me to
inquire about a change for 2 or 3 months, I will do so.  I need to know how
many months you want the changes for.

In FAMA,  we are listed under "Specialty Societies" which is free, but only
basic information about the group can be listed here.  I happen to have an
old Oct. '98 issue.  There is  "Reader's Exchange" (classified ads) which
has a "Hobbyist Listing" in which events are listed.  It cost $.25 a word to
advertise here at that time.  I also saw some show announcements above the
advertising coupon.  I suggest that a current FAMA subscriber take charge of
the FAMA advertising.  There is an advertising coupon which needs to be
filled out should we decide to advertise in the classifieds and you must pay
in advance which of course would be reimbursed.

I know for sure that TFH and AFM have a three month lead time.  I would
think FAMA does as well.

 Should I put it in some of the plant magazines (pond
> magazines?)-we have to make it clear this isn't about pond type stuff at
all
> in our ads. There is usually a 3 or 4 month lead time to send into a
> calendar of events if the magazines have one.  Charlene

It depends.  If it's free, why not?  But I wouldn't pay to advertise in a
magazine which really doesn't target our audience.  TFH is the only magazine
listed above which has a calendar of events.

Mary
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com
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> > Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 7:12 AM
> > To: aga-mcm-digest@thekrib.com
> > Subject: MCM - Digest V1 #291
> >
> >
> > MCM - Digest           Saturday, May 6 2000           Volume 01 : Number
> > 291
> >
> >
> >
> > In this issue:
> >
> >    Now... where were we :)
> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 07:50:40 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> > Subject: Now... where were we :)
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Just wanted to let everyone know what's been going on in the steering
> > committee lately.  Bob's bowed out as the steering committee chair, so
> > I have volunteered to take it on in a "rent-to-own" capacity for a few
> > months.  Bob will remain in name during this time.  If everything works
> > out, I will take on the title officially.  (As I mentioned on the SC, it
> > is unfortunate that this happened at the same time as my scanner toys
> > arrived, because I was in the middle of starting the TAG archive project
> > when this happened).
> >
> > What I'd like to do in this position is just keep everyone on track of
the
> > currently-open issues on both the MC and SC.  To this end, I'm going to
be
> > trying to track all open issues in a file which I'll periodically post
> > here, and possibly mutate into something on the private web site.
> >
> > To summarize this large list, the current "hot" items are
> >
> >   * Resolution of the SC/MC relationship.  We need to decide once and
for
> > all if the MC is an advisory or voting board.  It was formed initially
as
> > an advisory board, but somewhere along the line people on the MC just
> > started voting on things.  So LET'S DISCUSS, and then the SC (!) can
> > formally vote on this.  Presumably this will also be incorporated
into...
> >
> >   * The Incorporation/bylaws! Mary, can you ask Bob what we need to do?
> >     (see the links in the full-blown list below for all discussion to
> > date)
> >
> >   * Convention details needed for the website.  Charlene, how is this
> > progressing?
> >
> >   * Neil also would like to know if we're planning on advertising the
> > convention in magazines.
> >
> > OK, that's it.  Here's the full-blown list (remember that if you click
on
> > the links to archived messages, you'll need to enter username/password,
> > which gets appended to every message here ad nauseum):
> >
> >   - Erik
> >
> >
> >
> > Task
> > Culprit Phase
> >
> > CONFERENCE
> >
> > Need details for website
> > Charlene Do it
> > Advertise on website Erik
> > Pending Charlene
> > Advertise elsewhere ?
> > ?
> >
> > Future conferences and regional meetings/speakers
> > tabled
> > with local clubs (discussion around Feb 13th)
> >
> >
> > MANAGEMENT
> >
> > Does MC vote on issues?
> > Entire SC Discussion
> >
> > "Up until the TAG vote, the SC has made all the "major"
> > decisions regarding
> > the AGA.  The MC has been more advisory in capacity, as well
> > as, in theory,
> > running various committees.  I'm not saying that another
> > model might not be
> > better, just that this is how it has been done up until now.
> > But I think
> > we ALL agree that AGA could stand with some new ways of
> > doing business.  I
> > don't have any problem with changing things, but I think we
> > should make
> > some decisions on how we think things _should_ be done, and
> > get it written
> > down in some fashion so that we don't have to reinvent the
> > wheel every time
> > a decision, particularly a contentious one, needs to be
> > made." - Karen
> >
> >
> > INCORPORATION
> >
> > Draft bylaws Bob
> > McCaw ? need to find out ?
> > Approve Bylaws SC
> > or MC pending draft?
> >
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00730.html
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00727.html
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00720.html
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00714.html  (the main
> > one from Bob McCaw)
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00698.html
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00695.html
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00691.html
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00675.html (Bob Cashin's
> > original bylaws)
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00634.html
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00624.html (Bob McCaw's
> > first message)
> >
> >
> > SALES
> >
> > Expand T-shirt and pin sales?
> > tabled
> >
> > "I have only been selling T-shirts and pins when I go to
> > events or
> > speaking engagements. I have sold a couple by mail but I
> > would gladly turn
> > them over if someone would like to take over. I have enjoyed
> > selling them
> > but as Karen says you have to pack them along." - Dorothy
> >
> > Archived TAG articles on CD-ROM
> > tabled
> > Continue printing back issues?
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00682.html
> >
> > Unusual Plant Sales
> > tabled
> >
> >
> > TAG
> >
> > Get soft copies of documents from Universal Printing erik
> > waiting on John Cogwell
> > Scan old TAGs for archive erik
> > proceeding
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00697.html
> >
> > Memberships expiring jack
> > resolved (not an issue)
> > "I have been continuing Dorothy's tradition of sending out
> > renewal notices." - Jack
> > Membership database upgrade jack
> > tabled?
> > (filemaker? internet-based?)
> >
> > Membership Roster in TAG
> > tabled?
> >
> > Advertising in other publications mary
> > resolved?
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00632.html
> >
> > WEBSITE
> >
> > what to do with Olga's survey?
> > tabled
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00873.html
> > add survey to membership database?
> > tabled
> >
> >
> > VOLUNTEERS
> > Volunteer coordinator
> > tabled
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00668.html
> >
> > Tim Belanger
> > tabled
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-mcm/msg00847.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The Steering Committee:
> >
> > Neil Frank
> > Karen Randall
> > Erik Olson
> > Dorothy Reimer
> > David Lass Treasurer
> > Bob Cashin
> >
> > The Management Committee:
> >
> > Jack O'Leary Membership
> > Mary McCaw TAG Editor
> > Paul Krombholz
> > Merrill Cohen
> > Charlene Nash Convention Chair
> > Mike Hellweg Historian
> > Diana Walstad Sales
> >
> >
> > - --
> > Erik Olson
> > erik at thekrib dot com
> >
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