Re: [AGA-mcm] Re: New fish

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

I disagree with marking the new folks.

For some being new, the last thing wanted is to stick out
in a crowd. Would rather be absorbed in. E.g., Karen, Erik,
Kathy and a couple of others treated me pretty much like I
had been there for years the first time they saw me. *That*
made me feel welcome and part of the group.

sh
--- Ann Viverette <annv777@houston.rr.com> wrote:

> At Texas A&M they call freshmen "fish"... perhaps we
> could tag the 
> firstimers with fish stickers on their badges. Those in
> the know (host club 
> and AGA members) would then be fast to include them,
> without them really 
> quite seeing how it happened.
> 
> Ann V
> 
> > This could be tied in with Speaker Hosts. Not so much a
> Welcome Committee
> > thing but a Host Committee thing. How about, when they
> register, they have
> > the option of ticking a box that says "This Is My First
> AGA Convention."
> > Then a note is made on the registration list and a
> special dot or 
> > something
> > put on their badge.
> >
> > The Host Committee In Charge Of Newbies would meet them
> when they register
> > and recognize them later, wandering up to them
> periodically and asking 
> > them
> > whether they need anything or have any questions and do
> they have plans 
> > for
> > lunch. Likewise, the newbie would know who to seek out
> with questions.
> >
> > Then the person behind the AGA table wouldn't be asked
> questions that she
> > didn't know the answer to, left feeling stupid because
> she has no idea.
> >
> > This data could also be important to track what
> percentage of people 
> > return
> > to our convention and what percentage are so pissed
> they want nothing more
> > to do with us ever again.
> >
> > Cheryl
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:58:32 -0600
> > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID: <41A0D748.1050707@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> format=flowed
> >
> >
> > S. Hieber wrote:
> >
> >> Imo, a part of the program should always be dedicated
> to
> >> useful info, whatever that is. Where to go for
> help/info
> >> that isn't explicitly in the program is one of the
> first
> >> things that should be included.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Write that down.
> >
> > Cheryl
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:03:14 -0600
> > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID: <41A0D862.4080700@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> format=flowed
> >
> > Erik Olson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Not sure I completely agree.  There's nothing that
> says the field trips
> >> "have to" be plant-related.  The ACA is an example of
> that -- they have
> >
> >
> > Truthfully, me neither. Maybe part of it was the blucky
> day, but I would
> > have thought twice about going if I had known how much
> time I would be
> > sitting on the bus. Next year, I may not go if it's the
> same old thing.
> >
> > OTOH, I did think that using a commercial outfit to
> transport field
> > trippers was a better idea than last year, when they
> relied on club 
> > members
> > and rented vans. Last year the vans were late and prone
> to wildly
> > unpredictable diversions! :-)
> >
> > Cheryl
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:05:17 -0600
> > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID: <41A0D8DD.9030501@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> format=flowed
> >
> > I would still like to know the answer to this question.
> Also, did ADG
> > donate or did they just buy Amano's stuff?
> >
> > Cheryl
> >
> > Cheryl Rogers wrote:
> >
> >> Red Sea told me they were going to send something--did
> they?
> >>
> >> Cheryl
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> AGA-mcm mailing list
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> >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:43:02 -0600
> > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > Subject: [AGA-mcm] Certificate of Appreciation
> > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID: <41A0E1B6.80805@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> format=flowed
> >
> > How's this?
> >
> >
> >
> > Certificate of Appreciation
> >
> > this award is presented to
> >
> > SeaChem Laboratories, Inc.
> >
> > in appreciation of your generous sponsorship of
> >
> > The Aquatic Gardeners Association
> >
> > Given this 22nd day of November, 2004.
> > Thank you for your continued support of the planted
> aquaria
> > hobby and our association.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:00:50 -0500
> > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID: <029b01c4cffc$6bb44120$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > I like all those ideas except that I'm not sure it
> really ties in with
> > hosting speakers.  I think we need a separate person or
> committee to 
> > handle
> > newbies.  Their needs will be different, and the hosts
> for each speaker 
> > will
> > need to be responsible for that one person.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> >
> >
> >> Karen Randall wrote:
> >>
> >> > I also liked Allesia's idea of a person, or group of
> people who would
> >> > specifically make it their job to take "newbies"
> under their wing...
> >> > particularly if she's offering! This has always been
> a problem, and
> > we've
> >> > always had to try to balance getting the work done,
> wanting to spend
> > some
> >> > time with each other becausewe ARE friends, and
> still making sure that
> > we
> >> > mingle and make new attendees feel welcome.  This is
> an idea that could
> >> > solve that problem.  It would also help with people
> like Marian.  We
> > could
> >> > even have a "welcome wagon" type hand-out if we had
> a committee working
> > on
> >> > it.
> >>
> >> This could be tied in with Speaker Hosts. Not so much
> a Welcome Committee
> >> thing but a Host Committee thing. How about, when they
> register, they 
> >> have
> >> the option of ticking a box that says "This Is My
> First AGA Convention."
> >> Then a note is made on the registration list and a
> special dot or
> > something
> >> put on their badge.
> >>
> >> The Host Committee In Charge Of Newbies would meet
> them when they 
> >> register
> >> and recognize them later, wandering up to them
> periodically and asking
> > them
> >> whether they need anything or have any questions and
> do they have plans
> > for
> >> lunch. Likewise, the newbie would know who to seek out
> with questions.
> >>
> >> Then the person behind the AGA table wouldn't be asked
> questions that she
> >> didn't know the answer to, left feeling stupid because
> she has no idea.
> >>
> >> This data could also be important to track what
> percentage of people
> > return
> >> to our convention and what percentage are so pissed
> they want nothing 
> >> more
> >> to do with us ever again.
> >>
> >> Cheryl
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:01:48 -0500
> > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID: <02a701c4cffc$8e203480$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Have no idea about Red Sea, but ADG donated all the
> driftwood.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> >
> >
> >> I would still like to know the answer to this
> question. Also, did ADG
> >> donate or did they just buy Amano's stuff?
> >>
> >> Cheryl
> >>
> >> Cheryl Rogers wrote:
> >>
> >> > Red Sea told me they were going to send
> something--did they?
> >> >
> >> > Cheryl
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > AGA-mcm mailing list
> >> > AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> >> > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:02:31 -0500
> > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID: <02af01c4cffc$a7e557b0$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > I agree with all of that.<g>
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> >
> >
> >> Erik Olson wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Not sure I completely agree.  There's nothing that
> says the field trips
> >> > "have to" be plant-related.  The ACA is an example
> of that -- they have
> >>
> >>
> >> Truthfully, me neither. Maybe part of it was the
> blucky day, but I would
> >> have thought twice about going if I had known how much
> time I would be
> >> sitting on the bus. Next year, I may not go if it's
> the same old thing.
> >>
> >> OTOH, I did think that using a commercial outfit to
> transport field
> >> trippers was a better idea than last year, when they
> relied on club
> > members
> >> and rented vans. Last year the vans were late and
> prone to wildly
> >> unpredictable diversions! :-)
> >>
> >> Cheryl
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:02:52 -0500
> > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Certificate of Appreciation
> > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID: <02b301c4cffc$b42469d0$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Sounds good.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:43 PM
> > Subject: [AGA-mcm] Certificate of Appreciation
> >
> >
> >> How's this?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Certificate of Appreciation
> >>
> >> this award is presented to
> >>
> >> SeaChem Laboratories, Inc.
> >>
> >> in appreciation of your generous sponsorship of
> >>
> >> The Aquatic Gardeners Association
> >>
> >> Given this 22nd day of November, 2004.
> >> Thank you for your continued support of the planted
> aquaria
> >> hobby and our association.
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:23:26 -0800 (PST)
> > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID:
> <20041121192326.73864.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Maybe we should send something to all the registrants
> > *before* the convention plus more use of signs, welcome
> > wagoneers, etc. Things like,
> >
> > you don't need to get your registration packet until .
> . .
> >
> > You can get your reg packet at . . .
> >
> > Contacts for info once yu get to the hotel are:
> > and you can difn them at . . .
> >
> > Maybe we should do the Banquet Friday night so people
> can
> > roam and mingle in one place before the rest of the
> > convention????? But could hurt sales due to the
> > one-nighters not attending the banquet.
> >
> >
> > sh
> >
> > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> >
> >> Good point.  Make another note!  Remember to include
> this
> >> info in opening
> >> remarks!<g>  The problem is that opening remarks don't
> >> happen until just
> >> before the talks on Friday night.  Many attendees have
> >> already been there
> >> for 24 hours at that point.  Maybe some signs in the
> >> hospitality suite?  I
> >> don't know, other ideas?
> >>
> >> Karen
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:31:07 -0800 (PST)
> > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID:
> <20041121193107.75971.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > They donated, we were told. I don't remember exactly
> but I
> > think Senske's donated some nice batches of driftwood.
> >
> > And I recall seeing a buyer with two or more
> collections at
> > the auction.
> >
> > sh
> > --- Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I would still like to know the answer to this
> question.
> >> Also, did ADG
> >> donate or did they just buy Amano's stuff?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:38:25 -0500
> > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > Message-ID: <02d501c4d001$abc2c6b0$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >> Maybe we should send something to all the registrants
> >> *before* the convention plus more use of signs,
> welcome
> >> wagoneers, etc. Things like,
> >>
> >> you don't need to get your registration packet until .
> . .
> >>
> >> You can get your reg packet at . . .
> >>
> >> Contacts for info once yu get to the hotel are:
> >> and you can difn them at . . .
> >
> > Good ideas.  Add them to "The LIST"<g>
> >
> >> Maybe we should do the Banquet Friday night so people
> can
> >> roam and mingle in one place before the rest of the
> >> convention????? But could hurt sales due to the
> >> one-nighters not attending the banquet.
> >
> > The one year we did the banquet the first night, it
> didn't work well.
> > Besides the one-day folks, we had SEVERAL people who
> paid for their 
> > banquet,
> > but then missed out on it due to flight/driving
> problems.  Plus, if we're
> > going to ask our "big" speaker to do a talk at the
> banquet, it seems sort 
> > of
> > odd having them as the "kick-off".
> >
> > NEC does have a convention "kick-off" get-together,
> though.  They have a
> > silent auction, and then some sort of presenation. 
> That might be the
> > perfect slot for the contest unveiling, and opening
> remarks, where they
> > wouldn't need to be sandwiched in among other things.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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