Re: [AGA-mcm] Re: New fish

["Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>]

Well, we wouldn't HAVE to mark people who didn't want to be marked.  We
could ask them.  The trouble with leaving it to chance is that there are
people who don't get noticed at all.  I don't remember why we noticed you,
but I'm glad we did.  Think how many potentially valuable worker-bees we
might be missing in the crowd.<g>

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Re: New fish


> I disagree with marking the new folks.
>
> For some being new, the last thing wanted is to stick out
> in a crowd. Would rather be absorbed in. E.g., Karen, Erik,
> Kathy and a couple of others treated me pretty much like I
> had been there for years the first time they saw me. *That*
> made me feel welcome and part of the group.
>
> sh
> --- Ann Viverette <annv777@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > At Texas A&M they call freshmen "fish"... perhaps we
> > could tag the
> > firstimers with fish stickers on their badges. Those in
> > the know (host club
> > and AGA members) would then be fast to include them,
> > without them really
> > quite seeing how it happened.
> >
> > Ann V
> >
> > > This could be tied in with Speaker Hosts. Not so much a
> > Welcome Committee
> > > thing but a Host Committee thing. How about, when they
> > register, they have
> > > the option of ticking a box that says "This Is My First
> > AGA Convention."
> > > Then a note is made on the registration list and a
> > special dot or
> > > something
> > > put on their badge.
> > >
> > > The Host Committee In Charge Of Newbies would meet them
> > when they register
> > > and recognize them later, wandering up to them
> > periodically and asking
> > > them
> > > whether they need anything or have any questions and do
> > they have plans
> > > for
> > > lunch. Likewise, the newbie would know who to seek out
> > with questions.
> > >
> > > Then the person behind the AGA table wouldn't be asked
> > questions that she
> > > didn't know the answer to, left feeling stupid because
> > she has no idea.
> > >
> > > This data could also be important to track what
> > percentage of people
> > > return
> > > to our convention and what percentage are so pissed
> > they want nothing more
> > > to do with us ever again.
> > >
> > > Cheryl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:58:32 -0600
> > > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID: <41A0D748.1050707@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> > format=flowed
> > >
> > >
> > > S. Hieber wrote:
> > >
> > >> Imo, a part of the program should always be dedicated
> > to
> > >> useful info, whatever that is. Where to go for
> > help/info
> > >> that isn't explicitly in the program is one of the
> > first
> > >> things that should be included.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Write that down.
> > >
> > > Cheryl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:03:14 -0600
> > > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID: <41A0D862.4080700@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> > format=flowed
> > >
> > > Erik Olson wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Not sure I completely agree.  There's nothing that
> > says the field trips
> > >> "have to" be plant-related.  The ACA is an example of
> > that -- they have
> > >
> > >
> > > Truthfully, me neither. Maybe part of it was the blucky
> > day, but I would
> > > have thought twice about going if I had known how much
> > time I would be
> > > sitting on the bus. Next year, I may not go if it's the
> > same old thing.
> > >
> > > OTOH, I did think that using a commercial outfit to
> > transport field
> > > trippers was a better idea than last year, when they
> > relied on club
> > > members
> > > and rented vans. Last year the vans were late and prone
> > to wildly
> > > unpredictable diversions! :-)
> > >
> > > Cheryl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:05:17 -0600
> > > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID: <41A0D8DD.9030501@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> > format=flowed
> > >
> > > I would still like to know the answer to this question.
> > Also, did ADG
> > > donate or did they just buy Amano's stuff?
> > >
> > > Cheryl
> > >
> > > Cheryl Rogers wrote:
> > >
> > >> Red Sea told me they were going to send something--did
> > they?
> > >>
> > >> Cheryl
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:43:02 -0600
> > > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > Subject: [AGA-mcm] Certificate of Appreciation
> > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID: <41A0E1B6.80805@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> > format=flowed
> > >
> > > How's this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Certificate of Appreciation
> > >
> > > this award is presented to
> > >
> > > SeaChem Laboratories, Inc.
> > >
> > > in appreciation of your generous sponsorship of
> > >
> > > The Aquatic Gardeners Association
> > >
> > > Given this 22nd day of November, 2004.
> > > Thank you for your continued support of the planted
> > aquaria
> > > hobby and our association.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 7
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:00:50 -0500
> > > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID: <029b01c4cffc$6bb44120$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > I like all those ideas except that I'm not sure it
> > really ties in with
> > > hosting speakers.  I think we need a separate person or
> > committee to
> > > handle
> > > newbies.  Their needs will be different, and the hosts
> > for each speaker
> > > will
> > > need to be responsible for that one person.
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:57 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > >
> > >
> > >> Karen Randall wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I also liked Allesia's idea of a person, or group of
> > people who would
> > >> > specifically make it their job to take "newbies"
> > under their wing...
> > >> > particularly if she's offering! This has always been
> > a problem, and
> > > we've
> > >> > always had to try to balance getting the work done,
> > wanting to spend
> > > some
> > >> > time with each other becausewe ARE friends, and
> > still making sure that
> > > we
> > >> > mingle and make new attendees feel welcome.  This is
> > an idea that could
> > >> > solve that problem.  It would also help with people
> > like Marian.  We
> > > could
> > >> > even have a "welcome wagon" type hand-out if we had
> > a committee working
> > > on
> > >> > it.
> > >>
> > >> This could be tied in with Speaker Hosts. Not so much
> > a Welcome Committee
> > >> thing but a Host Committee thing. How about, when they
> > register, they
> > >> have
> > >> the option of ticking a box that says "This Is My
> > First AGA Convention."
> > >> Then a note is made on the registration list and a
> > special dot or
> > > something
> > >> put on their badge.
> > >>
> > >> The Host Committee In Charge Of Newbies would meet
> > them when they
> > >> register
> > >> and recognize them later, wandering up to them
> > periodically and asking
> > > them
> > >> whether they need anything or have any questions and
> > do they have plans
> > > for
> > >> lunch. Likewise, the newbie would know who to seek out
> > with questions.
> > >>
> > >> Then the person behind the AGA table wouldn't be asked
> > questions that she
> > >> didn't know the answer to, left feeling stupid because
> > she has no idea.
> > >>
> > >> This data could also be important to track what
> > percentage of people
> > > return
> > >> to our convention and what percentage are so pissed
> > they want nothing
> > >> more
> > >> to do with us ever again.
> > >>
> > >> Cheryl
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 8
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:01:48 -0500
> > > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID: <02a701c4cffc$8e203480$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Have no idea about Red Sea, but ADG donated all the
> > driftwood.
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:05 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > >
> > >
> > >> I would still like to know the answer to this
> > question. Also, did ADG
> > >> donate or did they just buy Amano's stuff?
> > >>
> > >> Cheryl
> > >>
> > >> Cheryl Rogers wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Red Sea told me they were going to send
> > something--did they?
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheryl
> > >> >
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > AGA-mcm mailing list
> > >> > AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > >> > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 9
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:02:31 -0500
> > > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID: <02af01c4cffc$a7e557b0$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > I agree with all of that.<g>
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > >
> > >
> > >> Erik Olson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Not sure I completely agree.  There's nothing that
> > says the field trips
> > >> > "have to" be plant-related.  The ACA is an example
> > of that -- they have
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Truthfully, me neither. Maybe part of it was the
> > blucky day, but I would
> > >> have thought twice about going if I had known how much
> > time I would be
> > >> sitting on the bus. Next year, I may not go if it's
> > the same old thing.
> > >>
> > >> OTOH, I did think that using a commercial outfit to
> > transport field
> > >> trippers was a better idea than last year, when they
> > relied on club
> > > members
> > >> and rented vans. Last year the vans were late and
> > prone to wildly
> > >> unpredictable diversions! :-)
> > >>
> > >> Cheryl
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 10
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:02:52 -0500
> > > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Certificate of Appreciation
> > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID: <02b301c4cffc$b42469d0$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Sounds good.
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:43 PM
> > > Subject: [AGA-mcm] Certificate of Appreciation
> > >
> > >
> > >> How's this?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Certificate of Appreciation
> > >>
> > >> this award is presented to
> > >>
> > >> SeaChem Laboratories, Inc.
> > >>
> > >> in appreciation of your generous sponsorship of
> > >>
> > >> The Aquatic Gardeners Association
> > >>
> > >> Given this 22nd day of November, 2004.
> > >> Thank you for your continued support of the planted
> > aquaria
> > >> hobby and our association.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 11
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:23:26 -0800 (PST)
> > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID:
> > <20041121192326.73864.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > Maybe we should send something to all the registrants
> > > *before* the convention plus more use of signs, welcome
> > > wagoneers, etc. Things like,
> > >
> > > you don't need to get your registration packet until .
> > . .
> > >
> > > You can get your reg packet at . . .
> > >
> > > Contacts for info once yu get to the hotel are:
> > > and you can difn them at . . .
> > >
> > > Maybe we should do the Banquet Friday night so people
> > can
> > > roam and mingle in one place before the rest of the
> > > convention????? But could hurt sales due to the
> > > one-nighters not attending the banquet.
> > >
> > >
> > > sh
> > >
> > > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Good point.  Make another note!  Remember to include
> > this
> > >> info in opening
> > >> remarks!<g>  The problem is that opening remarks don't
> > >> happen until just
> > >> before the talks on Friday night.  Many attendees have
> > >> already been there
> > >> for 24 hours at that point.  Maybe some signs in the
> > >> hospitality suite?  I
> > >> don't know, other ideas?
> > >>
> > >> Karen
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 12
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:31:07 -0800 (PST)
> > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID:
> > <20041121193107.75971.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > They donated, we were told. I don't remember exactly
> > but I
> > > think Senske's donated some nice batches of driftwood.
> > >
> > > And I recall seeing a buyer with two or more
> > collections at
> > > the auction.
> > >
> > > sh
> > > --- Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would still like to know the answer to this
> > question.
> > >> Also, did ADG
> > >> donate or did they just buy Amano's stuff?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 13
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:38:25 -0500
> > > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > Message-ID: <02d501c4d001$abc2c6b0$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > >> Maybe we should send something to all the registrants
> > >> *before* the convention plus more use of signs,
> > welcome
> > >> wagoneers, etc. Things like,
> > >>
> > >> you don't need to get your registration packet until .
> > . .
> > >>
> > >> You can get your reg packet at . . .
> > >>
> > >> Contacts for info once yu get to the hotel are:
> > >> and you can difn them at . . .
> > >
> > > Good ideas.  Add them to "The LIST"<g>
> > >
> > >> Maybe we should do the Banquet Friday night so people
> > can
> > >> roam and mingle in one place before the rest of the
> > >> convention????? But could hurt sales due to the
> > >> one-nighters not attending the banquet.
> > >
> > > The one year we did the banquet the first night, it
> > didn't work well.
> > > Besides the one-day folks, we had SEVERAL people who
> > paid for their
> > > banquet,
> > > but then missed out on it due to flight/driving
> > problems.  Plus, if we're
> > > going to ask our "big" speaker to do a talk at the
> > banquet, it seems sort
> > > of
> > > odd having them as the "kick-off".
> > >
> > > NEC does have a convention "kick-off" get-together,
> > though.  They have a
> > > silent auction, and then some sort of presenation.
> > That might be the
> > > perfect slot for the contest unveiling, and opening
> > remarks, where they
> > > wouldn't need to be sandwiched in among other things.
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
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