Re: [AGA-mcm] Re: New fish

[Ghazanfar Ghori <ghorig@gmail.com>]

Maybe a  'Can I help you?' table for next year?


On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:29:37 -0500, Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> Well, we wouldn't HAVE to mark people who didn't want to be marked.  We
> could ask them.  The trouble with leaving it to chance is that there are
> people who don't get noticed at all.  I don't remember why we noticed you,
> but I'm glad we did.  Think how many potentially valuable worker-bees we
> might be missing in the crowd.<g>
> 
> 
> 
> Karen
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Re: New fish
> 
> > I disagree with marking the new folks.
> >
> > For some being new, the last thing wanted is to stick out
> > in a crowd. Would rather be absorbed in. E.g., Karen, Erik,
> > Kathy and a couple of others treated me pretty much like I
> > had been there for years the first time they saw me. *That*
> > made me feel welcome and part of the group.
> >
> > sh
> > --- Ann Viverette <annv777@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > At Texas A&M they call freshmen "fish"... perhaps we
> > > could tag the
> > > firstimers with fish stickers on their badges. Those in
> > > the know (host club
> > > and AGA members) would then be fast to include them,
> > > without them really
> > > quite seeing how it happened.
> > >
> > > Ann V
> > >
> > > > This could be tied in with Speaker Hosts. Not so much a
> > > Welcome Committee
> > > > thing but a Host Committee thing. How about, when they
> > > register, they have
> > > > the option of ticking a box that says "This Is My First
> > > AGA Convention."
> > > > Then a note is made on the registration list and a
> > > special dot or
> > > > something
> > > > put on their badge.
> > > >
> > > > The Host Committee In Charge Of Newbies would meet them
> > > when they register
> > > > and recognize them later, wandering up to them
> > > periodically and asking
> > > > them
> > > > whether they need anything or have any questions and do
> > > they have plans
> > > > for
> > > > lunch. Likewise, the newbie would know who to seek out
> > > with questions.
> > > >
> > > > Then the person behind the AGA table wouldn't be asked
> > > questions that she
> > > > didn't know the answer to, left feeling stupid because
> > > she has no idea.
> > > >
> > > > This data could also be important to track what
> > > percentage of people
> > > > return
> > > > to our convention and what percentage are so pissed
> > > they want nothing more
> > > > to do with us ever again.
> > > >
> > > > Cheryl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:58:32 -0600
> > > > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID: <41A0D748.1050707@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> > > format=flowed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > S. Hieber wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Imo, a part of the program should always be dedicated
> > > to
> > > >> useful info, whatever that is. Where to go for
> > > help/info
> > > >> that isn't explicitly in the program is one of the
> > > first
> > > >> things that should be included.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Write that down.
> > > >
> > > > Cheryl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 4
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:03:14 -0600
> > > > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID: <41A0D862.4080700@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> > > format=flowed
> > > >
> > > > Erik Olson wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Not sure I completely agree.  There's nothing that
> > > says the field trips
> > > >> "have to" be plant-related.  The ACA is an example of
> > > that -- they have
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Truthfully, me neither. Maybe part of it was the blucky
> > > day, but I would
> > > > have thought twice about going if I had known how much
> > > time I would be
> > > > sitting on the bus. Next year, I may not go if it's the
> > > same old thing.
> > > >
> > > > OTOH, I did think that using a commercial outfit to
> > > transport field
> > > > trippers was a better idea than last year, when they
> > > relied on club
> > > > members
> > > > and rented vans. Last year the vans were late and prone
> > > to wildly
> > > > unpredictable diversions! :-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheryl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 5
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:05:17 -0600
> > > > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID: <41A0D8DD.9030501@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> > > format=flowed
> > > >
> > > > I would still like to know the answer to this question.
> > > Also, did ADG
> > > > donate or did they just buy Amano's stuff?
> > > >
> > > > Cheryl
> > > >
> > > > Cheryl Rogers wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Red Sea told me they were going to send something--did
> > > they?
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheryl
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 6
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:43:02 -0600
> > > > From: Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > Subject: [AGA-mcm] Certificate of Appreciation
> > > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID: <41A0E1B6.80805@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
> > > format=flowed
> > > >
> > > > How's this?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Certificate of Appreciation
> > > >
> > > > this award is presented to
> > > >
> > > > SeaChem Laboratories, Inc.
> > > >
> > > > in appreciation of your generous sponsorship of
> > > >
> > > > The Aquatic Gardeners Association
> > > >
> > > > Given this 22nd day of November, 2004.
> > > > Thank you for your continued support of the planted
> > > aquaria
> > > > hobby and our association.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 7
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:00:50 -0500
> > > > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID: <029b01c4cffc$6bb44120$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > I like all those ideas except that I'm not sure it
> > > really ties in with
> > > > hosting speakers.  I think we need a separate person or
> > > committee to
> > > > handle
> > > > newbies.  Their needs will be different, and the hosts
> > > for each speaker
> > > > will
> > > > need to be responsible for that one person.
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:57 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Karen Randall wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I also liked Allesia's idea of a person, or group of
> > > people who would
> > > >> > specifically make it their job to take "newbies"
> > > under their wing...
> > > >> > particularly if she's offering! This has always been
> > > a problem, and
> > > > we've
> > > >> > always had to try to balance getting the work done,
> > > wanting to spend
> > > > some
> > > >> > time with each other becausewe ARE friends, and
> > > still making sure that
> > > > we
> > > >> > mingle and make new attendees feel welcome.  This is
> > > an idea that could
> > > >> > solve that problem.  It would also help with people
> > > like Marian.  We
> > > > could
> > > >> > even have a "welcome wagon" type hand-out if we had
> > > a committee working
> > > > on
> > > >> > it.
> > > >>
> > > >> This could be tied in with Speaker Hosts. Not so much
> > > a Welcome Committee
> > > >> thing but a Host Committee thing. How about, when they
> > > register, they
> > > >> have
> > > >> the option of ticking a box that says "This Is My
> > > First AGA Convention."
> > > >> Then a note is made on the registration list and a
> > > special dot or
> > > > something
> > > >> put on their badge.
> > > >>
> > > >> The Host Committee In Charge Of Newbies would meet
> > > them when they
> > > >> register
> > > >> and recognize them later, wandering up to them
> > > periodically and asking
> > > > them
> > > >> whether they need anything or have any questions and
> > > do they have plans
> > > > for
> > > >> lunch. Likewise, the newbie would know who to seek out
> > > with questions.
> > > >>
> > > >> Then the person behind the AGA table wouldn't be asked
> > > questions that she
> > > >> didn't know the answer to, left feeling stupid because
> > > she has no idea.
> > > >>
> > > >> This data could also be important to track what
> > > percentage of people
> > > > return
> > > >> to our convention and what percentage are so pissed
> > > they want nothing
> > > >> more
> > > >> to do with us ever again.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheryl
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 8
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:01:48 -0500
> > > > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID: <02a701c4cffc$8e203480$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > Have no idea about Red Sea, but ADG donated all the
> > > driftwood.
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I would still like to know the answer to this
> > > question. Also, did ADG
> > > >> donate or did they just buy Amano's stuff?
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheryl
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheryl Rogers wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Red Sea told me they were going to send
> > > something--did they?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Cheryl
> > > >> >
> > > >> > _______________________________________________
> > > >> > AGA-mcm mailing list
> > > >> > AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > > >> > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 9
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:02:31 -0500
> > > > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID: <02af01c4cffc$a7e557b0$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > I agree with all of that.<g>
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:03 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Erik Olson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Not sure I completely agree.  There's nothing that
> > > says the field trips
> > > >> > "have to" be plant-related.  The ACA is an example
> > > of that -- they have
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Truthfully, me neither. Maybe part of it was the
> > > blucky day, but I would
> > > >> have thought twice about going if I had known how much
> > > time I would be
> > > >> sitting on the bus. Next year, I may not go if it's
> > > the same old thing.
> > > >>
> > > >> OTOH, I did think that using a commercial outfit to
> > > transport field
> > > >> trippers was a better idea than last year, when they
> > > relied on club
> > > > members
> > > >> and rented vans. Last year the vans were late and
> > > prone to wildly
> > > >> unpredictable diversions! :-)
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheryl
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 10
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:02:52 -0500
> > > > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Certificate of Appreciation
> > > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID: <02b301c4cffc$b42469d0$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > Sounds good.
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Cheryl Rogers" <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:43 PM
> > > > Subject: [AGA-mcm] Certificate of Appreciation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> How's this?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Certificate of Appreciation
> > > >>
> > > >> this award is presented to
> > > >>
> > > >> SeaChem Laboratories, Inc.
> > > >>
> > > >> in appreciation of your generous sponsorship of
> > > >>
> > > >> The Aquatic Gardeners Association
> > > >>
> > > >> Given this 22nd day of November, 2004.
> > > >> Thank you for your continued support of the planted
> > > aquaria
> > > >> hobby and our association.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> > > >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 11
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:23:26 -0800 (PST)
> > > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > <20041121192326.73864.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > > >
> > > > Maybe we should send something to all the registrants
> > > > *before* the convention plus more use of signs, welcome
> > > > wagoneers, etc. Things like,
> > > >
> > > > you don't need to get your registration packet until .
> > > . .
> > > >
> > > > You can get your reg packet at . . .
> > > >
> > > > Contacts for info once yu get to the hotel are:
> > > > and you can difn them at . . .
> > > >
> > > > Maybe we should do the Banquet Friday night so people
> > > can
> > > > roam and mingle in one place before the rest of the
> > > > convention????? But could hurt sales due to the
> > > > one-nighters not attending the banquet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > sh
> > > >
> > > > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Good point.  Make another note!  Remember to include
> > > this
> > > >> info in opening
> > > >> remarks!<g>  The problem is that opening remarks don't
> > > >> happen until just
> > > >> before the talks on Friday night.  Many attendees have
> > > >> already been there
> > > >> for 24 hours at that point.  Maybe some signs in the
> > > >> hospitality suite?  I
> > > >> don't know, other ideas?
> > > >>
> > > >> Karen
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> AGA-mcm mailing list
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> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 12
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:31:07 -0800 (PST)
> > > > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Vendor Check
> > > > To: AGA Advisory Committee <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > <20041121193107.75971.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > > >
> > > > They donated, we were told. I don't remember exactly
> > > but I
> > > > think Senske's donated some nice batches of driftwood.
> > > >
> > > > And I recall seeing a buyer with two or more
> > > collections at
> > > > the auction.
> > > >
> > > > sh
> > > > --- Cheryl Rogers <cheryl@rightstuffwebsites.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I would still like to know the answer to this
> > > question.
> > > >> Also, did ADG
> > > >> donate or did they just buy Amano's stuff?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 13
> > > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:38:25 -0500
> > > > From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] [AGA Convention Feedback] (fwd)
> > > > To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> > > > Message-ID: <02d501c4d001$abc2c6b0$6800a8c0@KARENPRO>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > >> Maybe we should send something to all the registrants
> > > >> *before* the convention plus more use of signs,
> > > welcome
> > > >> wagoneers, etc. Things like,
> > > >>
> > > >> you don't need to get your registration packet until .
> > > . .
> > > >>
> > > >> You can get your reg packet at . . .
> > > >>
> > > >> Contacts for info once yu get to the hotel are:
> > > >> and you can difn them at . . .
> > > >
> > > > Good ideas.  Add them to "The LIST"<g>
> > > >
> > > >> Maybe we should do the Banquet Friday night so people
> > > can
> > > >> roam and mingle in one place before the rest of the
> > > >> convention????? But could hurt sales due to the
> > > >> one-nighters not attending the banquet.
> > > >
> > > > The one year we did the banquet the first night, it
> > > didn't work well.
> > > > Besides the one-day folks, we had SEVERAL people who
> > > paid for their
> > > > banquet,
> > > > but then missed out on it due to flight/driving
> > > problems.  Plus, if we're
> > > > going to ask our "big" speaker to do a talk at the
> > > banquet, it seems sort
> > > > of
> > > > odd having them as the "kick-off".
> > > >
> > > > NEC does have a convention "kick-off" get-together,
> > > though.  They have a
> > > > silent auction, and then some sort of presenation.
> > > That might be the
> > > > perfect slot for the contest unveiling, and opening
> > > remarks, where they
> > > > wouldn't need to be sandwiched in among other things.
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
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