Hi Erik/MCM, I was kind of thinking along the same lines wondering when we were going to go back to the pre-conference list. I did have an idea but I should have sent it to you before. I was thinking that we should keep the list as is with Ghazanfar, Jay, Sean, etc alive but use it for a slightly different purpose. I thought that we could create a new list with the current MCM members for discussions that should be kept confidential, but use the old list to do two things. First to get additional view points on ideas, and second to try and find out who really should be included in the long-term AGA decisions. In fact I thought of expanding it to other folks who claim to be interested in helping out. I know that it would be a PIA figuring out what to send to what list but I think the benefits of including more members in specific AGA direction related decisions is significant. I lso think we have a lot of untapped talent in the AGA and this list might be a good way to find out. Although, I agree with Erik's concerns I also hate to "remove" people who have shown an interest in wanting to help. I am already tired of reading "AGA Members" posting statements in other forums about the AGA in the third person as if the AGA was some seperate intransigent entity of planted aquarists. Most folks won't actually do the work to back up their talk anyways but this way at least they can't say that we were excusionary either. Just a suggestion... Regards, Larry Lampert --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote: > As of this minute, the list membership is now: > > Ann, Phil, Cheryl, David, Dorothy, Erik, Kathy, > Karen, Larry, Michael, > Paul and Scott. > > It feels wrong pulling Jay off the list, but I did > it. There will be a > lot of "inside" discussions occuring over the next > few months, especially > about next years' convention, and based on the > attitude Jay has shown here > and in his forum postings regarding AGA business, > several board members > were starting to feel uncomfortable discussing > inside business on this > list for fear it would get leaked to outside forums > or otherwise > broadcast. > > I think there is still promise, and we could pull > Jay back in (if he > wants), but someone would have to have a good talk > with him about conduct > on forums when representing the AGA. > > - Erik > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > _______________________________________________ > AGA-mcm mailing list > AGA-mcm@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm > _______________________________________________ AGA-mcm mailing list AGA-mcm@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm