Re: [AGA-mcm] Fwd: Re: The so-called "Bid Doc"

["Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>]

I've got mixed feelings.  I agree with Erik, that Dave is usually at his 
worst in e-mail.  (Diana says he needs "tone school" and there is no place 
that this is more obvious than e-mail)  I'm also willing to call him, if 
that's what you guys want.  It certainly is easier to figure out the agendas 
(and there can be multiple ones) in "live" conversations with him.  OTOH, I 
do NOT want to be in the position, for the next 10 months of being the 
go-between for Dave and the AGA or Dave and the convention committee.  I'd 
rather run a convention myself. (or have my toenails pulled out one by one!)

When Dave talked to me a week ago, he specifically said that he did NOT want 
to chair the convention, but neither did he think Tom was capable.  He saw 
himself in a strong second position, handling hotel negotiations, which is 
the area where he feels most competent.  I think the problem is that we are 
still talking to two individuals here, as opposed to spokesmen for a 
cohesive group.  As I see it, they still need to come up with a leader, and 
then we can negotiate through that person.  THAT person will have the 
responsibility for using both Dave and Tom effectively, and keeping them 
reined in as needed.

Do they have a person capable of doing that job?  Your guess is as good as 
mine.  And while Dave is reluctant to take the captain's chair himself, he 
is also pretty critical of the other crew members.  But that's typical Dave. 
No one can do anything as well as he could (if he wanted to) until they 
prove otherwise.<g>  He did, however, admit that we had done a great job 
with TAG, and that he doubted that any of the old PAM subscribers had 
"minded" getting TAG instead. (strong praise, coming from Dave ;-)

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Fwd: Re: The so-called "Bid Doc"


> I agree completely. Although, perhaps, Erik's is a more
> tempered view than mine.
>
> I don't think we should take what we can get because that's
> the best we can get. If there isn't promise of an
> outstanding, well produced event, we should concentrate on
> 2006. We can help in the discussions that might lead to
> such promise, but it's not something we should confer.
> There is already a lot that AGA staff are promising in the
> Reqs & Guidelines doc. I think the rest of the promise and
> commitment needs to come from the local.
>
> I'm a bit uncomfrtable because, so far, it seems like Tom
> is the one trying to rally folks into action. Dave is not;
> he is doing something else. It looks like he won't move
> until he sees the bandwagon, and then he'll climb in front
> provided that . . . . -- but I could be all wrong about
> that.
>
> Until I understand what that heck he's doing, what he's
> talking about, I'm not inclined to think of him as the
> potential leader of an effort he has not been leading.
>
> Pardon my early morning coarseness, but, as for AGA
> atonement for perceived trangessions, my only thought is,
> "Pphlbbbbbbbbbbbbbttttt!"
>
> sh
> --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
>
> > . . .  I would like to find
> > out exactly what
> > he means, because he often doesn't mean what we think he
> > is saying in
> > e-mail.  But, especially after last convention, there's
> > NO way we're going
> > to approve anything or anyone without a thorough review.
> > It's not up
> > to the AGA to pre-appoint anyone or give anyone any kind
> > of guarantees.
> > We can make suggestions, we can talk about what is likely
> > to work, but
> > that's all.
> >
> >    - Erik
> >
> > --
> > Erik Olson
> > erik at thekrib dot com
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