I am going to do something that I don't often do just for arguments sake. OK, let's give Gomberg the benefit of the doubt and say that his email did not properly express his thoughts. Regardless, as we learned rather painfully this year, it is not about anything other than the desire and leadership of a strong host club. The AGA can help with everything but those three critical pieces. I don't know the players in the SF Club anymore. Are Tom and Dave considered leaders? Could we depend on either of them to do what we know it takes in terms of committment? I am open to giving them a chance. I think we all need to be since there are no other options for 2005. However, I am not impressed, nor am I optomistic at this point. Regards, Larry --- "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> wrote: > I agree completely. Although, perhaps, Erik's is a > more > tempered view than mine. > > I don't think we should take what we can get because > that's > the best we can get. If there isn't promise of an > outstanding, well produced event, we should > concentrate on > 2006. We can help in the discussions that might lead > to > such promise, but it's not something we should > confer. > There is already a lot that AGA staff are promising > in the > Reqs & Guidelines doc. I think the rest of the > promise and > commitment needs to come from the local. > > I'm a bit uncomfrtable because, so far, it seems > like Tom > is the one trying to rally folks into action. Dave > is not; > he is doing something else. It looks like he won't > move > until he sees the bandwagon, and then he'll climb in > front > provided that . . . . -- but I could be all wrong > about > that. > > Until I understand what that heck he's doing, what > he's > talking about, I'm not inclined to think of him as > the > potential leader of an effort he has not been > leading. > > Pardon my early morning coarseness, but, as for AGA > atonement for perceived trangessions, my only > thought is, > "Pphlbbbbbbbbbbbbbttttt!" > > sh > --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote: > > > . . . I would like to find > > out exactly what > > he means, because he often doesn't mean what we > think he > > is saying in > > e-mail. But, especially after last convention, > there's > > NO way we're going > > to approve anything or anyone without a thorough > review. > > It's not up > > to the AGA to pre-appoint anyone or give anyone > any kind > > of guarantees. > > We can make suggestions, we can talk about what is > likely > > to work, but > > that's all. > > > > - Erik > > > > -- > > Erik Olson > > erik at thekrib dot com > > _______________________________________________ > > AGA-mcm mailing list > > AGA-mcm@thekrib.com > > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm > > > > _______________________________________________ > AGA-mcm mailing list > AGA-mcm@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm > _______________________________________________ AGA-mcm mailing list AGA-mcm@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm