Re: [AGA-mcm] busted amano talk on 2001 video

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

We can't do this for everyone, but maybe we shold send him
a tshirt or something for now and for being such a sport.

sh
--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:

> The guy wrote back and said "take your time."  I *am*
> going to give him 
> something for his troubles, since not only did he buy
> everything in the 
> AGA catalog, it sounds like he's actually watching
> everything.  But it 
> will be balanced with the timetable of getting my
> computer in appropriate 
> shape for video work, which is currently freaking me out.
> 
>    - Erik
> 
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, S. Hieber wrote:
> 
> > Personally, I can't see redoing the disk -- especially
> if
> > it means recapturing all the hours of video from the
> tape.
> > I also can't see offering replacements that haven't
> been
> > asked for. Besides being a lot of work, it would be
> mucho
> > expensive.
> >
> > It's not so much that it isn't noticeable as it is a
> matter
> > of translated mon-the-fly-material and I expected a
> delay
> > anyhow. Sure, Tomoko actually is faster than that, but
> it
> > just didn't matter much to me.
> >
> > sh.
> > --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Paul, I took a look, and you're completely right. 
> There
> >> is NO SOUND AT
> >> ALL for the first 20 seconds of visual, and then it
> kicks
> >> in.  It only
> >> appears to be relevant to the lecture.  So THANKS for
> >> spotting it.  I have
> >> no idea how this got onto the master at all, and more
> >> importantly, why
> >> NOBODY has noticed it yet.  Clearly I'm going to have
> to
> >> send replacements
> >> to everyone at some point.
> >>
> >> Now the bad news.  In order to produce a new disk, I
> will
> >> have to
> >> recapture all the original footage off tape and
> re-render
> >> every talk for
> >> the whole disk from scratch.  As I have a new baby in
> the
> >> house (and a
> >> computer that isn't working quite right at the
> moment), I
> >> literally may
> >> not be able to get this done for months.  If you want
> a
> >> quick response, I
> >> will refund your money for the one DVD.  If you can
> hang
> >> tight for a bit
> >> (maybe weeks, not months), I will send you a disk with
> >> JUST amano's talk
> >> (rendered at higher bitrate -- gotta give you
> something
> >> for being
> >> patient), as well as the full disk when that's done. 
> Let
> >> me know your
> >> preference, and thanks again for your patience.
> >>
> >>    - Erik
> >>
> >> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Paul Garrity wrote:
> >>
> >>> Amono's lips are never in sync anyhow because of
> >> translator, but the
> >>> translators narrative does not correspond with the
> >> slide show. Then when
> >>> question & answer takes place after slide show the
> >> delay continues. Its so
> >>> subtle I was half way through the slide show before I
> >> realized the slide she
> >>> was describing was not the one on the screen. My
> first
> >> thought was that I
> >>> might be loosing my mind. His second talk "Live Aqua
> >> Demo" is fine. And so is
> >>> the rest of the DVD. Based on what you are saying
> about
> >> tracks this might be
> >>> the same problem on all of your 2001 disks.
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Olson"
> >> <erik@thekrib.com>
> >>> To: "Paul Garrity" <pgarrity@mn.rr.com>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:50 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: Notification of payment received
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> At the start of the talk, does it appear in sync?
> >>>>
> >>>> At the *end* of the talk, does the delay clearly
> >> continue, as in Mr.
> >>>> Amano's mouth move but you can't hear anything, even
> >> in the background?
> >>>>
> >>>> One possibility here is that the 20 seconds is just
> >> how the talk went. with
> >>>> the overlayed translation and all.
> >>>>
> >>>> What's funny here is that there aren't really
> "tracks"
> >> per se, but one
> >>>> single track with chapter stops... that's the way
> >> ReelDVD masters disks.
> >>>> I'll go look at the master disk too & see if I can
> see
> >> a similar effect.
> >>>>
> >>>>   - Erik
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Paul Garrity wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Erik
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I checked 2000, 2001 & 2002. All okay except for
> the
> >> track mentioned
> >>>>> (track one 2001). Maybe you should check another
> disk
> >> to see if that track
> >>>>> is bad on all disks. It is very subtle as the delay
> >> is actually about 20
> >>>>> seconds, with the narrative following the photo. I
> >> was about half way
> >>>>> through program before it became apparent.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paul
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Olson"
> >> <erik@thekrib.com>
> >>>>> To: <pgarrity@mn.rr.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:41 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Notification of payment received
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Paul,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Was just checking the records for your address &
> >> noticed you were the guy
> >>>>>> who ordered our entire catalog!  Before I send of
> >> another 2001 disk, can
> >>>>>> you check some of the other disks to see if you
> get
> >> that same "30 second
> >>>>>> delay" phenomenon?  I mastered 2000, 2001 and 2002
> >> in the same timeframe,
> >>>>>> so they might exhibit the same symptoms for you.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   - Erik
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 pgarrity@mn.rr.com wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dear Aquatic Gardeners Association,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This email confirms that you have received a
> >> payment for $310.00 USD
> >>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>> paul garrity (pgarrity@mn.rr.com).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ***************************************
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> >>>>>>> ***************************************
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The number above is the buyer's receipt ID for
> this
> >> transaction. Please
> >>>>>>> retain it for your records so that you will be
> able
> >> to reference this
> >>>>>>> transaction for customer service.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> View the details of this transaction online at:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Erik Olson
> >>>>>> erik at thekrib dot com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Erik Olson
> >>>> erik at thekrib dot com
> >>
> >> --
> >> Erik Olson
> >> erik at thekrib dot com
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