Re: [AGA-mcm] Re: Request for Proposals to Host AGA 2006 Convention

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

I'm sorry to harp on this so I'll let go with this message.
I just think we have to strike a balance between a long
lead time, which speads out the work but lowers the number
of prospective proposers, risks losing team members that
can't maintain the commitment indefinitely and makes some
parts of the deal tougher to nail down versus a short lead
time which does the opposite of these things.

I think it's great if a person is interested maybe 14-16
months ahead, meets with their club and presents the idea,
they chew on it and are convinced they want to do it and so
maybe two months later start working towards a proposal
14-12 months ahead of the convention. Great if they can do
it even sooner. But I just as soon not scare them away with
a lead time much longer than what we'd actually tolerate in
practice. And when push comes to shove, we're pretty
tolerant, possibly because, although we are not beggars for
a deal, we have limited choices -- it's this one club, even
thought late or no convention at all this year.




---  Mike Hellweg <mhellweg511@charter.net> wrote:

> Very true...
> 
> ; )
> 
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Re: Request for Proposals to Host
> AGA 2006 Convention
> 
> 
> > You can tell the horse when it's time to drink, but. .
> .
> > ;-)
> >
> > sh
> > ---  Mike Hellweg <mhellweg511@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I really think anything less than a year is cutting it
> >> too close, and puts
> >> too much pressure on the local group.  That's the way
> >> other national clubs
> >> do it and it works.  Why reinvent the wheel?  It's
> >> already been done.
> >>
> >> That way you can announce the next year's convention
> at
> >> the current
> >> convention and make a big deal about it, maybe even do
> a
> >> short presentation
> >> at the banquet to get folks pumped up about it - and
> most
> >> importantly give
> >> everyone plenty of time to plan vacation time, etc.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> >> To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:15 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Re: Request for Proposals to
> Host
> >> AGA 2006 Convention
> >>
> >>
> >> > Right, this is what I've been trying to wrap my
> hands
> >> around & have not
> >> > been able to state.  We want people (SFBAAPS for
> >> example) to show real
> >> > progress and evidence that they would get it all
> done
> >> in time.  Phil's
> >> > proposal that I adopted into the deadlines sent to
> them
> >> did NOT require
> >> > the final bid or hotel to be submitted April 1,
> rather
> >> just a
> >> > preliminiary, including a list of committee heads.
> >> Just SOMETHING in
> >> > writing.  And I think this is what we'd also like to
> >> see November 1st for
> >> > stuff from a year from now.
> >> >
> >> > What I mean by "special consideration for SFBAAPS"
> was
> >> that if they were
> >> > interested in hosting a Spring convention, by our
> >> standards, they're now
> >> > out.  I'd like to give them the chance if they want
> to
> >> take it.  But I
> >> > have no idea what their goal is, so it's impossible
> to
> >> negotiate anything
> >> > with them yet.
> >> >
> >> > Please let me know the final text (Scott, you're the
> >> head).  I will put
> >> > that on the website, but will make no more arbitrary
> >> changes until then.
> >> >
> >> >   - Erik
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, S. Hieber wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Ooh, I like that for a couple of reasons. Besides
> >> being
> >> >> slightly more generous than demanding 12 months, it
> >> gives
> >> >> an indication of how much time we think they might
> >> need to
> >> >> spend on proposal.
> >> >>
> >> >> We could even recommend submitting a draft proposal
> >> for
> >> >> comments from AGA somewhere between the 12 month
> and 9
> >> >> month marks.
> >> >>
> >> >> sh
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> >> >>> Whatabout suggesting that preliminary negotiations
> >> start
> >> >>> at the 12 month
> >> >>> mark in order to help the local organization put
> >> together
> >> >>> a workable bid by
> >> >>> 9 or 10 months out?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Karen
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> >> >>> To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:35 AM
> >> >>> Subject: RE: [AGA-mcm] Re: Request for Proposals
> to
> >> Host
> >> >>> AGA 2006 Convention
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I wouldn't mind a year in advance except that I
> >> think it
> >> >>>> will sharply limit the number of responses. Even
> >> though
> >> >>>> GWAPA, who, e.g., knew well before AGA2k3 that it
> >> >>> wanted to
> >> >>>> propose for AGA2K4, it was not able to get a
> formal
> >> >>>> proposal together 12 months before AGA2K3.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I suggested about 10 months figuring we'd end up
> >> >>> allowing
> >> >>>> slippage to about 8 months, if pressed.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Btw, wasn't there also a Canadian club that
> >> expressed
> >> >>>> interest in hosting a convention in 2005?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> sh
> >> >>>> --- Phil Edwards <biotypical@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> I would like to see the floating deadline for
> the
> >> >>>>> proposal be in a full year
> >> >>>>> before the anticipated convention date.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Right now I'm getting geared up to start working
> on
> >> a
> >> >>>>> consortium of clubs,
> >> >>>>> CAAS, CAPE, and the local NANFA chapter for a
> >> possible
> >> >>>>> bid at a conference
> >> >>>>> in '07 or '08.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Best,
> >> >>>>> Phil
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>>>> AGA-mcm mailing list
> >> >>>>> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> >> >>>>>
> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>>> AGA-mcm mailing list
> >> >>>> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> >> >>>> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>> AGA-mcm mailing list
> >> >>> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> >> >>> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> >> >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> >> >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > -- 
> >> > Erik Olson
> >> > erik at thekrib dot com
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > AGA-mcm mailing list
> >> > AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> >> > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> AGA-mcm mailing list
> >> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > AGA-mcm mailing list
> > AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> > 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> AGA-mcm mailing list
> AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm
> 



_______________________________________________
AGA-mcm mailing list
AGA-mcm@thekrib.com
http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm