Erica mentioned large tanks being easier than small, which kind of describes why I now have to attend AA meetings (Aquarists Anonymous).. My descent into this terrible addiction started a little over a year - or is it two? it's all such a blur - ago when my wife and I thought a small fish tank would be nice for our apartment. A neighborhood dealer trafficing in fish (how they slyly present themselves as friendly little pet stores!!) sold us a 15gal Eclipse. While looking at the fish, we noticed the plants. "Oh, can we grow plants?", we innocently asked. "Oh sure, sure", says the dealer with a remarkably evil grin. Little did we realize that we were the fish, and had just been caught by all the wonderful 'bait' before us. Now you have to understand that prior to this, I thought CO2 came in those little red cyclinders labeled "Fire Extinquisher"; cycling was something I did as a kid; and laterite must be someone belonging to one of those flying saucer cults. Anyway, at first the plants and fish appeared to be fine, but then came the inevitable algae. "You need algae eaters!" declared the dealer. Fish load not being a term in our vocabulary, we bought whatever the dealer recommended. Soon, the plants started dying. "You need chemicals!" "You need other plants!" Wow, were we lucky. Whatever our problem was this dealer had just the thing! And always in stock! It took us a while to realize that whatever we bought just didn't work. The final straw came when we went into the store one day and were told, "Look, a new shipment of Pinneas came in. These will be good for your tank!" We put the bunch in the tank and watched as it melted before our eyes. Shortly after I went into another store. Row upon row of small tanks, and not one of them looking anything like ours. A conversation followed that was the beginning of the end for me. By this time we couldn't bear looking at the Eclipse. I saw an ad for a used 50gal tank from someone who was moving and thought, "What the hell." Ended up throwing out everything that came with it except the tank and stand. With the help of my new guru, I decided on using about 20% gravel, 40% flourite and 40% florabase as the substrate. Got a Fluval 404, a 2x65watt (10k) powercompact lighting fixture and a Jebo CO2 system. Added another powerhead for circulation. Added water and waited for the dust to settle. Then we bought a lot of fast growing plants and put them in. Waited a week and then moved all the algae eaters and Corys from the Eclipse to the new tank. We then just let it cycle, not feeding the fish at all. After a month or more I became adept at the brand new skill of pruning growing plants. Started to remove some to replace them with others, and moved the remaining fish into the new tank. We emptied the Eclipse, cleaned it, and buried it deep into the back of a closet, wanting to never see it again. That was 7 months ago. The 50gal is wonderful. The plants are wonderful, even if I have to prune them every week. The fish are wonderful, and it seems like whatever fish I put in there like it for breeding. So I says to myself, "Self," says I, "If I can grow a 50gal, how hard can it be for a small tank?" Thus is the circular nature of life. I dug out the Eclipse. Trampled on, stamped and mutilated the bio-wheel, then took a hammer to it just in case. (I know, I know, many people use those bio-wheels quite successfully. But I needed an effigy of my own ignorance to dispel those demons still haunting me.). Put in a small Fluval and repeated the process as with the 50gal. This small tank is at the end of its cycling and the plants are fabulous. We even prefer its aquascape to that of the 50gal. We think we'll use shrimp in this one for algae/substrate cleaning and have a nice little school of pencilfish for the plants to play with. The moral? um, well.. Size doesn't matter, it's what you do with it that counts. (sorry about that, I couldn't resist) Dennis ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/