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Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
Righto! But I thought I covered that with the fish.
You can seed with mulm from another tank if you want
virtually skip cycling, but that's not necessary -- you're
gonna have bacteria almost no matter what you do. A
healthy aquarium is a bowl of warm bacteria soup :-) The
organic material feeds the bacteria and heated water
cultures them. You have to start the organics somewhere
and one way to do that is with a *few* fish. You don't
want to load the tank up with fish at the start but a few
are okay, even good. You *do* want to load up with plants
to absorb the nitrogen and provide lots of oxygen.
You *can* even skip the fish altogether (some folks do) but
you still have to put in fish food or some other more
measured and balanced source of nutrients for the plants.
A filter to mechanically control detritus is a good idea in
a planted tank but the bacteria in the planted tank (in the
gravel, on all the surfaces, will probably be enough with
or without a biofilter -- provided you keep your plants fed
and don't go crazy and overfeed the plants or your fish.
If you don't put in a filter, then you should at least have
a powerhead or other pump to ensure some circulation -- I
did forget that, didn't I?
You don't have to add any CO2. You can grow a very nice
planted tank without adding any CO2. Plants will not grow
as fast and you won't need as much lighting (and that ain't
necessarily bad, is it?) but lots of plants will do just
fine without added CO2. Try something hardy like the
Amazon Sword (aka Echinodorus Bleheri) and water sprite and
java fern. There's lots of others but those are often easy
to find and you can grow them without added CO2
Otoh, if you want to move away from simple, there is no end
tohow complex you can go. But you can keep things simple
and have a very nice planted tank. And if you have any
artistic talent (which I don't), you can make a lovely
aquascape with a simple tank.
Simply yours,
Scott H.
--- Donna McGraw <donnamcg@swbell.net> wrote:
> Scott, is it really that simple? What about adding
> bacteria, a filter, CO2?
>
> Donna
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
>
>
> > Put in substrate, a little water, plants plants plants,
> > then fill with water. Everything else is secondary.
> Oh
> > yes, a few fish can be nice too ;-)
> >
> > What plants do you think you'll start with? Where will
> you
> > be getting them?
> >
> > If that 48 seems daunting, why not set up a little 15
> > gallon to start -- it can become a quarrantine tank
> later.
> > Once you get that one going, you just might jump right
> on
> > ahead to the 48.
> >
> > Scott H.
> > --- Donna McGraw <donnamcg@swbell.net> wrote:
> > > OK, I'll fess-up too. I've been a member about 6
> months
> > > and have a 48 gal
> > > bow front sitting in my entry way waiting to be set
> up as
> > > an underwater
> > > garden - my first attempt. I'm not sure what's so
> > > intimidating about it but
> > > . . . .
> > >
> > > Donna M
> > > Houston
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "dilvish" <dilvish@pacbell.net>
> > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 11:51 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
> > >
> > >
> > > > heh.. seems to be a lot of us lurking in the
> > > background. I'm a new member
> > > > as well so Hello there everyone.
> > > >
> > > > Dennis
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "tandj" <tgray@stx.rr.com>
> > > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 8:55 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello group, I'm a new member also. I joined after
> > > reading some sample
> > > > articles on the internet. The current issue of TAG
> is
> > > wonderful.
> > > > Tim Gray
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message-------
> > > >
> > > > From: aga-member@thekrib.com
> > > > Date: Monday, April 28, 2003 8:40:12 AM
> > > > To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List (fwd)
> > > >
> > > > List was down, perhaps since the upgrade, here's a
> post
> > > that didn't make
> > > > it. Testing to make sure it does now...
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: DWS
> > > > To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 7:01 PM
> > > > Subject: AGA Mailing List --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > > After asking around I found that this is one of the
> > > larger groups of
> > > > committed Aquarium Plant Hobbyists available. I
> > > received a sample of the
> > > > TAG, and liked what I saw. So I became a member and
> > > joined this mailing
> > > > list. Its been over a week, and I am yet to see one
> > > post. Is this a
> > > > problem with my account, or is there just no
> activity?
> > > I contacted the
> > > list
> > > > administrator, and was told there was just not alot
> of
> > > traffic.
> > > >
> > > > Why Not? Doesn't anyone have anything to say?
> Ideas?
> > > Questions?
> > > >
> > > > How many people are on this list?
> > > >
> > > > If Your there Id like to get to know you better.
> Which
> > > is one of the only
> > > > purposes I joined. I'm in Indiana, and besides a
> few
> > > small clubs in
> > > > Indianapolis (an hour drive from here) there are no
> > > other aquarium
> > > hobbyists
> > > > around. :)
> > > >
> > > > I just thought Id throw my 2 cents out there and
> see
> > > what happened. If
> > > > there are posts and I'm missing something, please
> let
> > > me know what I'm
> > > doing
> > > > wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Thank You
> > > >
> > > > A New Member
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dustin Stonebraker
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > > > To: "DWS" <dws@mbbookstore.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 11:57 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Did you mail it to aga-member@thekrib.com ?
> Usually I
> > > get a bounce when
> > > > > things don't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Erik
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, DWS wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Erik,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am still not receiving any posts to the
> mailling
> > > list. I even sent a
> > > > > > email to the list The evening of Apr 27th and
> am
> > > yet to receive it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let me know why.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dustin Stonebraker
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > > > > > To: "DWS" <dws@mbbookstore.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 8:23 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Aga Members List
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Dustin,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically not a lot of traffic right now.
> Feel
> > > free to ask something
> > > > on
> > > > > > > the list, though!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Erik
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, DWS wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was wodering why I am not getting any of
> the
> > > messages. Ive
> > > > > > subscribed, but have gotten nothing in the last
> > > three days. Is there
> > > > > > nothing being said, or what?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please let me know asap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dustin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Erik Olson
> > > > > > > erik at thekrib dot com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Erik Olson
> > > > > erik at thekrib dot com
> > > > >
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