From: "Roger Miller" <roger@spinn.net> > hydroxide to produce water and carbonate. The KH drops as the result of the > reaction. If the device is run long enough then the KH is consumed and the pH > in your tank crashes. Thanks, Roger. You're the first person I've found that knows anything about them. But I can't correlate my experience so far with your description. I've been running this thing for over 6 mos. Lights are on from noon to 10pm. The device goes on from 1pm to 9pm. (10 hours lights/8 hours co2). Over the last 6 mos, after the tank cycled, pH has been stable at around 6.8, KH usually tests around 35ppm (2 dKH), GH around 125ppm (7 dGH). This is with the AP freshwater kits, usually once a week. The only fluctuations come when I add tap instead of DI. Then I measure higher values of KH/GH. DI brings them back down again. I've kept a record of each weeks' test over these 6 mos. I'm not suggesting you or Paul are wrong about anything, just reporting my experience so far. Oh, and I usually test after the lights have been on 3 or 4 hours, if that matters. My problem is I live in an apartment building in San Franicsco. The landlord allows the tanks if I earthquake-proof them. He does not want any presurized gas cylinders in the apts. This seemed a good compromise between a sugar/yeast diy and a co2 tank. So now I don't know what to do.. Regards, Dennis ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/