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Re: [AGA Member] CO2 bottle consumed after 2 weeks



Amit,

I run a 5lbs bottle, at almost a constant stream of bubbles and it lasts me about 6 weeks. I don't clearly understand what you mean when you stated your bubble count. Since I am not sure how many bubbles per second you use, which will have a lot to do with how long your bottle lasts, I can't tell you if your usage was normal or not. However. Your bottle is half a kilo, which is about 1.25lbs. That size bottle would last me a week maybe a week and a half. I have no leaks.

Justin

----- Original Message -----
From: Amit Brucker <amitb@gtek.co.il>
Date: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:44 pm
Subject: [AGA Member] CO2 bottle consumed after 2 weeks

> Hi All,
> Two weeks ago I've bought my first pressurized CO2 system - effect was
> tremendous!
> The sad thing it that the bottle(500grams) is now empty - 
> frustrating...The pressure was about 0.8 bar, bubble per second 
> till you could not count
> bubbles anymore - water pushed out from the diffuser PH 6.8 plants 
> and fish
> are happy. Did I do anything wrong in the setup ?
> Vendor claims that it should last for 3 up to 8 months - depends 
> on usage.
> Is there a problem with the regulator ?
> 
> Amit
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> >     Re: [AGA Member] HELP W/ 180 GAL PLANT TANK/reply
> >     Re: [AGA Member] HELP W/ 180 GAL PLANT TANK/reply
> >     Re: [AGA Member] HELP W/ 180 GAL PLANT TANK/reply
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> > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:12:37 +0100 (BST)
> > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Albert=20Karcher?= <ahkarcher@yahoo.co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] HELP W/ 180 GAL PLANT TANK/reply
> >
> > Think about this....  I also have had a 180 gal planted tank for 
> 1.5 +
> years.  I have mostly followed Crandall's advise from Sunken 
> Gardens but
> have started to stray lately.
> > I use local Corpus Christi Water,  ph 8.0 & hardness about 4 or 
> 180 ppm.
> I try to find fish that are compatible with the local water simply for
> convenience(Tanganyikan's.  I have filter gravel on one side and 
> Fluorite on
> the other.  The tank is divided but water is passing through both 
> sides.196 watts on the Fluorite side and almost the same on the  
> other.  I
> struggled about a year with the yeast CO2 systems but several 
> months ago
> purchased cylinder and two each (different types) diffusers  They have
> helped tremendously.
> > I have tried many types of fertilisers including making some of 
> my own.
> However I have had very good luck with the following blends.
> > I looked at Flourish's ingredience and listed it on paper.  I 
> then looked
> at Tropica Master Grow and listed it's ingredients on the other 
> side of the
> paper and compared concentrations.  Where Flourish concentrations 
> were low
> Tropica Master Grow's were high.  Not very scientific, I realise 
> but for my
> tank perimeters this has been working very good.  I have been 
> using the
> follow doses with an Eheim dosing unit.
> > Flourish  0.82 ml/day
> > Tropica   4.1    "
> > Seachem's Phos  0 to 1 ml/day
> > Seachem's Nitrogen   1 ml/day
> > Seachems's K       1 ml/day
> > Fe (Carls or Seachem) 4 to 8 ml/day (I think)
> >
> > I monitor Iron, Phosphates and NO 3's once every 3 to 5 weeks 
> and adjust
> accordingly.  I have to harvest every 2 week.
> > The only algae I have is on the plant leaves and that seems to be
> controlled by reducing light.  I'm kinda lazy so bleach dipping is 
> out of
> the question.
> >
> > Good luck
> > ck
> >
> > By the way, exactly what is pearling?
> >
> > RUDY STA ANA <rsta_ana@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hello, Everybody!
> > I am a new member-1st post- and started planted
> > aquarium when you had your convention here in Houston
> > last year. I converted my 75 gal fish tank to planted
> > and after 6 mos grew Ludwigia and Stargrass pretty
> > good w/ Carbo Plus. I thought that I needed more space
> > for both plant and fish and thereby invested in a 180
> > gal.
> > I had mediocre results-a little daily pearling and
> > respectable growth on plants using Seachem Flourish a
> > lot cheaper than Dupla 24 drops).
> > I had to tear it down due to problems w/ tank that is
> > covered w/ warranty.
> > I had the replacement running for about a month now
> > and have algae problems and non-pearling. I know or I
> > think at least that the algae were result of adding
> > Seachem's nitrogen and phospate. Since then only used
> > Flourish, Potassium, and Iron - 10 ml ea/wk with
> > 40-50% weekly water change. I have 480 watts of PC and
> > 60 of reg flourescent(total 540) and pumps about 2 bps
> > of CO2 gas.
> > My tank has 0 ppm NH3 & NO2. PH=7.2 and about 10-11
> > deg KH & GH, Temp= 82deg. I have 5 3.5 in Discus, 10
> > o-cats, 20 Cardina J.,and 10 hatchets and 7 Corydoras.
> > Can you guys help me out as to which kind and brand of
> > ferts to use. Is my temp to high? Any help from
> > anybody will be greatly appreciated. I am just
> > desperate to grow a nice healthy planted tank.
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:13:18 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: RUDY STA ANA <rsta_ana@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] HELP W/ 180 GAL PLANT TANK/reply
> >
> > Pearling is when the plants release oxygen as tiny
> > bubbles from the leaves. The photosynthesis process.
> > - --- Albert Karcher <ahkarcher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Think about this....  I also have had a 180 gal
> > > planted tank for 1.5 + years.  I have mostly
> > > followed Crandall's advise from Sunken Gardens but
> > > have started to stray lately.
> > > I use local Corpus Christi Water,  ph 8.0 & hardness
> > > about 4 or 180 ppm.  I try to find fish that are
> > > compatible with the local water simply for
> > > convenience(Tanganyikan's.  I have filter gravel on
> > > one side and Fluorite on the other.  The tank is
> > > divided but water is passing through both sides.
> > > 196 watts on the Fluorite side and almost the same
> > > on the  other.  I struggled about a year with the
> > > yeast CO2 systems but several months ago purchased
> > > cylinder and two each (different types) diffusers
> > > They have helped tremendously.
> > > I have tried many types of fertilisers including
> > > making some of my own.  However I have had very good
> > > luck with the following blends.
> > > I looked at Flourish's ingredience and listed it on
> > > paper.  I then looked at Tropica Master Grow and
> > > listed it's ingredients on the other side of the
> > > paper and compared concentrations.  Where Flourish
> > > concentrations were low Tropica Master Grow's were
> > > high.  Not very scientific, I realise but for my
> > > tank perimeters this has been working very good.  I
> > > have been using the follow doses with an Eheim
> > > dosing unit.
> > > Flourish  0.82 ml/day
> > > Tropica   4.1    "
> > > Seachem's Phos  0 to 1 ml/day
> > > Seachem's Nitrogen   1 ml/day
> > > Seachems's K       1 ml/day
> > > Fe (Carls or Seachem) 4 to 8 ml/day (I think)
> > >
> > > I monitor Iron, Phosphates and NO 3's once every 3
> > > to 5 weeks and adjust accordingly.  I have to
> > > harvest every 2 week.
> > > The only algae I have is on the plant leaves and
> > > that seems to be controlled by reducing light.  I'm
> > > kinda lazy so bleach dipping is out of the question.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > ck
> > >
> > > By the way, exactly what is pearling?
> > >
> > > RUDY STA ANA <rsta_ana@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Hello, Everybody!
> > > I am a new member-1st post- and started planted
> > > aquarium when you had your convention here in
> > > Houston
> > > last year. I converted my 75 gal fish tank to
> > > planted
> > > and after 6 mos grew Ludwigia and Stargrass pretty
> > > good w/ Carbo Plus. I thought that I needed more
> > > space
> > > for both plant and fish and thereby invested in a
> > > 180
> > > gal.
> > > I had mediocre results-a little daily pearling and
> > > respectable growth on plants using Seachem Flourish
> > > a
> > > lot cheaper than Dupla 24 drops).
> > > I had to tear it down due to problems w/ tank that
> > > is
> > > covered w/ warranty.
> > > I had the replacement running for about a month now
> > > and have algae problems and non-pearling. I know or
> > > I
> > > think at least that the algae were result of adding
> > > Seachem's nitrogen and phospate. Since then only
> > > used
> > > Flourish, Potassium, and Iron - 10 ml ea/wk with
> > > 40-50% weekly water change. I have 480 watts of PC
> > > and
> > > 60 of reg flourescent(total 540) and pumps about 2
> > > bps
> > > of CO2 gas.
> > > My tank has 0 ppm NH3 & NO2. PH=7.2 and about 10-11
> > > deg KH & GH, Temp= 82deg. I have 5 3.5 in Discus, 10
> > > o-cats, 20 Cardina J.,and 10 hatchets and 7
> > > Corydoras.
> > > Can you guys help me out as to which kind and brand
> > > of
> > > ferts to use. Is my temp to high? Any help from
> > > anybody will be greatly appreciated. I am just
> > > desperate to grow a nice healthy planted tank.
> > >
> > >
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> > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:34:26 +0200
> > From: "Amit Brucker" <amitb@gtek.co.il>
> > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] HELP W/ 180 GAL PLANT TANK/reply
> >
> > I can sure see the pearling coming out from my crypts and 
> anubias (nana &
> > barteri).
> > I think I've read somewhere that the pearling is oxygen that 
> cannot be
> > diffused into the water which means that the is a 
> 100%utilization of
> > diffused oxygen in the water, hence the pearling released 
> directly to the
> > atmosphere.- But I cannot really back it up though it does make 
> sense....> Anyway pearling is nice to watch anyway.
> > BTW:
> > Is it common posting in this group your planted tanks ? (as 
> attachments)>
> > Amit
> >
> > - ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "RUDY STA ANA" <rsta_ana@yahoo.com>
> > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 5:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] HELP W/ 180 GAL PLANT TANK/reply
> >
> >
> > > Pearling is when the plants release oxygen as tiny
> > > bubbles from the leaves. The photosynthesis process.
> > > --- Albert Karcher <ahkarcher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Think about this....  I also have had a 180 gal
> > > > planted tank for 1.5 + years.  I have mostly
> > > > followed Crandall's advise from Sunken Gardens but
> > > > have started to stray lately.
> > > > I use local Corpus Christi Water,  ph 8.0 & hardness
> > > > about 4 or 180 ppm.  I try to find fish that are
> > > > compatible with the local water simply for
> > > > convenience(Tanganyikan's.  I have filter gravel on
> > > > one side and Fluorite on the other.  The tank is
> > > > divided but water is passing through both sides.
> > > > 196 watts on the Fluorite side and almost the same
> > > > on the  other.  I struggled about a year with the
> > > > yeast CO2 systems but several months ago purchased
> > > > cylinder and two each (different types) diffusers
> > > > They have helped tremendously.
> > > > I have tried many types of fertilisers including
> > > > making some of my own.  However I have had very good
> > > > luck with the following blends.
> > > > I looked at Flourish's ingredience and listed it on
> > > > paper.  I then looked at Tropica Master Grow and
> > > > listed it's ingredients on the other side of the
> > > > paper and compared concentrations.  Where Flourish
> > > > concentrations were low Tropica Master Grow's were
> > > > high.  Not very scientific, I realise but for my
> > > > tank perimeters this has been working very good.  I
> > > > have been using the follow doses with an Eheim
> > > > dosing unit.
> > > > Flourish  0.82 ml/day
> > > > Tropica   4.1    "
> > > > Seachem's Phos  0 to 1 ml/day
> > > > Seachem's Nitrogen   1 ml/day
> > > > Seachems's K       1 ml/day
> > > > Fe (Carls or Seachem) 4 to 8 ml/day (I think)
> > > >
> > > > I monitor Iron, Phosphates and NO 3's once every 3
> > > > to 5 weeks and adjust accordingly.  I have to
> > > > harvest every 2 week.
> > > > The only algae I have is on the plant leaves and
> > > > that seems to be controlled by reducing light.  I'm
> > > > kinda lazy so bleach dipping is out of the question.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Good luck
> > > > ck
> > > >
> > > > By the way, exactly what is pearling?
> > > >
> > > > RUDY STA ANA <rsta_ana@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello, Everybody!
> > > > I am a new member-1st post- and started planted
> > > > aquarium when you had your convention here in
> > > > Houston
> > > > last year. I converted my 75 gal fish tank to
> > > > planted
> > > > and after 6 mos grew Ludwigia and Stargrass pretty
> > > > good w/ Carbo Plus. I thought that I needed more
> > > > space
> > > > for both plant and fish and thereby invested in a
> > > > 180
> > > > gal.
> > > > I had mediocre results-a little daily pearling and
> > > > respectable growth on plants using Seachem Flourish
> > > > a
> > > > lot cheaper than Dupla 24 drops).
> > > > I had to tear it down due to problems w/ tank that
> > > > is
> > > > covered w/ warranty.
> > > > I had the replacement running for about a month now
> > > > and have algae problems and non-pearling. I know or
> > > > I
> > > > think at least that the algae were result of adding
> > > > Seachem's nitrogen and phospate. Since then only
> > > > used
> > > > Flourish, Potassium, and Iron - 10 ml ea/wk with
> > > > 40-50% weekly water change. I have 480 watts of PC
> > > > and
> > > > 60 of reg flourescent(total 540) and pumps about 2
> > > > bps
> > > > of CO2 gas.
> > > > My tank has 0 ppm NH3 & NO2. PH=7.2 and about 10-11
> > > > deg KH & GH, Temp= 82deg. I have 5 3.5 in Discus, 10
> > > > o-cats, 20 Cardina J.,and 10 hatchets and 7
> > > > Corydoras.
> > > > Can you guys help me out as to which kind and brand
> > > > of
> > > > ferts to use. Is my temp to high? Any help from
> > > > anybody will be greatly appreciated. I am just
> > > > desperate to grow a nice healthy planted tank.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________
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> > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:12:08 -0500
> > From: "Ricky Cain" <rlcain1@earthlink.net>
> > Subject: [AGA Member] Headed to Dallas?
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