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Re: [AGA Member] quartz size -- or - Cables Shmables



I'd go with that also....
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AGA Member] quartz size -- or - Cables Shmables


> Where is the heat going to go. It's pretty much jsut one
> place, the aquarium. To obtain the purported benefits of
> substrate cableson substrate longevity, you want
> temperature differentials, so you want the want to be able
> to pass through the substrate by convection.  While denser
> packing material like finer grained sand my conduct better,
> coarser grain will convect better.
> 
> Will either make a diff?  Noboody's really shown in a
> decade or so that it makes a diff to use the cables at all.
> For each person claiming an improvement, you can find half
> a dozen that found none.
> 
> They are expensive and unnecessary for a good planted tank.
> You certainly don't nedto worry about the effect of
> substrte grain size onthe effect of the cables -- they
> apparently haven't any significant benefit to affect.
> 
> Spend the money on plants and fish instead.
> 
> Scott H.
> --- Amit Brucker <amitb@gtek.co.il> wrote:
> > Well I have read in some book... the sand can spread the
> > heat better than
> > gravel ( do to its texture) so the effect can be better.
> > 
> > Amit
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Livay Aviel-R51374" <Aviel.Livay@motorola.com>
> > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:05 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AGA Member] quartz size
> > 
> > 
> > > Amit,
> > >
> > > Why would sand increase the heating cable effect?
> > >
> > > Aviel.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-aga-member@thekrib.com
> > [mailto:owner-aga-member@thekrib.com]
> > On Behalf Of Amit Brucker
> > > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 2:13 PM
> > > To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> > > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] quartz size
> > >
> > > I don't think you should insist.... 1-2 millimeters
> > should work just fine.
> > > Since you are about to use heating cables - You might
> > want to consider
> > sand
> > > on top the heating cables and your black quartz ontop.
> > > Thus increasing the heating cables effect.
> > >
> > > Amit
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Livay Aviel-R51374" <Aviel.Livay@motorola.com>
> > > To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 1:01 PM
> > > Subject: [AGA Member] quartz size
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I ordered 2-3 millimeter black quartz from my LFS for
> > my new planted
> > > aquarium. I believe this is the size that Dupla and
> > many others recommend.
> > > Unfortunately the quartz that my LFS offers me is 1-2
> > millimeter. There is
> > > no 2-3 millimeter black quartz. I plan to use heating
> > cables.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How important is the size of the quartz? Should I
> > insist?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Aviel.
> > > >
> > > >
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