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Re: [AGA Member] Aquarium Planning
I do not disagree regarding the carbon but:
Carbon usually holds on for two weeks so it might take up some of the
compounds needed for plants, but with plenty of light +CO2 there should be
no trouble - I do not know the water source that will be used but as far as
I read, some aquarists rely only on light+CO2 at the beginning of 'cycling'
a planted tank without adding any ferts/compounds thus preventing algae
bloom.
After the carbon has done its roll it can be used as a fine medium for
bacteria or just be removed from the tank. (Assuming the bio media is
functioning and can hold up the tank....)
I do not use carbon in any of my tanks but I think that when starting a
planted tank (In my case as well) it might just help the tank cycled.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Sanchez" <tsunamicarlos@hotmail.com>
To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Aquarium Planning
> Remember that there is no true "cycle" for Nitrogen in a planted aquarium.
> Plants will readily
> absorb all NH4 in the water, so you may never actually see an ammonia or
> nitrite spike. I suggest
> adding some hardier fish right by the end of the first month.
>
> Carbon is not recommended for planted aquaria as it absorbs many of the
> compounds plants need.
>
> According to most hobbyists, substrate heating it a big waste of money. I
> have personally never used them for any of my planted aquaria (all my
> planted aquariums are "high tech," btw, with pressurized CO2, intense
> lighting, etc), so I can't really say if they improve plant growth, etc.
>
> Mayaca, Phylanthus fluitans (floating plant), Alternanthera reineckii,
> Toninas, and various sword plants (not the cultivars) would be excellent
as
> they are native to the Amazon River Basin like the discus, if you want to
> recreate a biotope of course. :)
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Amit Brucker" <amitb@gtek.co.il>
> >Reply-To: aga-member@thekrib.com
> >To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> >Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Aquarium Planning
> >Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 22:09:00 +0200
> >
> >Discus will require high temperature range.... You'll have to find plants
> >that are suitable for that (Java Ferns/Java Moss etc...).
> >I would also filter through peat, and just for the beginning filter as
well
> >via Carbon + Bio media and after a while remove the carbon.
> >Cycling first by fast growing plants is not a bad idea... I would also
put
> >a
> >few guppies in to speed up the process, However I would wait for at least
a
> >month and only than introducing the live stock step by step, not all at
one
> >time, As well as testing the water prior to that.
> >
> >Amit Brucker
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Nathan Freedenberg" <gnatster@comcast.net>
> >To: <aga-member@thekrib.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:38 PM
> >Subject: [AGA Member] Aquarium Planning
> >
> >
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > Just joined this list and I am planning a planted tank. This is my
first
> > > foray into the realm of planted aquaria. I've read tons, talked to
some
> > > folks at the lfs that are successful in keeping planted aquaria and
have
> > > come up with a basic idea and plan. My background is in reef and
African
> > > aquaria.
> > >
> > > The Plan:
> > > Tank: AGA 210 with overflows. 72x24x30. AGA Stand 28" tall
> > >
> > > Lighting: AB 72" AquaSpaceLight 3 w/ 3 6500k 250w MH and 2 24w
Actinic
> > > Blue. Hang above open topped tank
> > >
> > > Sump: 40 Breeder 36x18x16 Provisions for two tank drains into 100
micron
> > > filter bag, channel for foam polishing sponge. Sump to include
> > > Heat 2x200 submersible
> > > CO2 Diffuser (I'm leaning toward the Aqua Medic Membrane type, unsure
of
> > > size needed)
> > > Return Pump: 2x 600gph @ 5' external
> > > All plumbing connections will have true unions w/ gate valves in
> > > schedule 40 pvc
> > >
> > > Substrate Heating: I'm leaning to the 100w from aquariumlandscapes.net
> > > (Pros/Cons?) I've looked at the Dupla setup and it runs over $1000 for
> > > this size aquarium, that's a budget buster in a big way.
> > >
> > > CO2 System: 5 or 10lb bottle, depends what fits standing up in the
> > > stand. 2 Stage regulator w/solenoid controlled via CO2 controller from
> > > aquariumlandscapes.net set on timer not come on when lights are off.
Do
> > > I need a bubble counter with that kind of setup? Recommended ones if
> > > needed? I'm also not 100% on a diffuser, recommendations please.
> > >
> > > Substrate: 3"-3.5" in depth. 1" layer CaribSea Amazon, 1" layer mixed
> > > 2/3 CaribSea Amazon, 1/3 Laterite , 1" layer CaribSea Amazon to top
off.
> > > Assorted rocks and driftwood to created a visually pleasing (to me)
> > > display.
> > >
> > > What am I missing hardware wise besides the incidentals like a
> > > thermometer, timers etc?
> > >
> > > My plan is to cycle the tank with fast growing plants only, no fish.
> > > Once cycled some of the fast growers will be removed and I will
> > > aquascape to a more visually appealing (to me) setup and start adding
> > > swimming livestock. Ultimately leading to a nice shoal of discus and
> > > other denizens to form an Amazon biotype.
> > >
> > > Thoughts, comments, concerns?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Nathan
> > >
> > >
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