Just a personal opinion but I don't buy into the Dupla heating cable theory. It's never been demonstrated to me that cables produce any benefit to plants above that provided by a good substrate and proper nutrients. CO2 diffusers are good. A lot of people like the Eheim which includes a bubble counter. And you can hide a diffuser in the back rather than have the CO2 fed through a powerhead. You should be able to easily fit a 10# bottle in the stand. I like the Fabco needle valve and don't use a solenoid. Unnecessary expense, like the heating cables, imho. I would have a few algae/detritus cleaners in the tank just to help the cycling along. Don't feed them any additional food. Then when you are ready, add just a few fish at a time to avoid spikes and unbalances. I know many people insist that Discus and others require high temps, but I had Discus breeding just fine at 74 degrees. Several nannostromus sp., otos, etc. all flourished and bred fine (except the pencil fish, they aren't breeding) without high temps. That allows me to grow whatever plants I want as well as even more savings on the electrical bill. As you can tell, I'm very big on keeping the electric bill manageable. As always, fwiw, imho, ymmv, etc. Good luck with your new tank! -d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Freedenberg" <gnatster@comcast.net> > Howdy, > > Just joined this list and I am planning a planted tank. This is my first > foray into the realm of planted aquaria. I've read tons, talked to some > folks at the lfs that are successful in keeping planted aquaria and have > come up with a basic idea and plan. My background is in reef and African > aquaria. > > The Plan: > Tank: AGA 210 with overflows. 72x24x30. AGA Stand 28" tall > > Lighting: AB 72" AquaSpaceLight 3 w/ 3 6500k 250w MH and 2 24w Actinic > Blue. Hang above open topped tank > > Sump: 40 Breeder 36x18x16 Provisions for two tank drains into 100 micron > filter bag, channel for foam polishing sponge. Sump to include > Heat 2x200 submersible > CO2 Diffuser (I'm leaning toward the Aqua Medic Membrane type, unsure of > size needed) > Return Pump: 2x 600gph @ 5' external > All plumbing connections will have true unions w/ gate valves in > schedule 40 pvc > > Substrate Heating: I'm leaning to the 100w from aquariumlandscapes.net > (Pros/Cons?) I've looked at the Dupla setup and it runs over $1000 for > this size aquarium, that's a budget buster in a big way. > > CO2 System: 5 or 10lb bottle, depends what fits standing up in the > stand. 2 Stage regulator w/solenoid controlled via CO2 controller from > aquariumlandscapes.net set on timer not come on when lights are off. Do > I need a bubble counter with that kind of setup? Recommended ones if > needed? I'm also not 100% on a diffuser, recommendations please. > > Substrate: 3"-3.5" in depth. 1" layer CaribSea Amazon, 1" layer mixed > 2/3 CaribSea Amazon, 1/3 Laterite , 1" layer CaribSea Amazon to top off. > Assorted rocks and driftwood to created a visually pleasing (to me) > display. > > What am I missing hardware wise besides the incidentals like a > thermometer, timers etc? > > My plan is to cycle the tank with fast growing plants only, no fish. > Once cycled some of the fast growers will be removed and I will > aquascape to a more visually appealing (to me) setup and start adding > swimming livestock. Ultimately leading to a nice shoal of discus and > other denizens to form an Amazon biotype. > > Thoughts, comments, concerns? > > Thanks > > Nathan ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/