----- The only drawback to the central sump with standpipes format is just that: it mandates the introduction of standpipes in all tanks. I've never drilled glass myself and would need to read up on this esoteric skill. Tanks could be purchased pre-drilled, of course, but then I'm cheap and an avid DIYer. Besides, in my case the multiple tanks will be 20 gals or less and I've never seen tanks this small offered in a pre-drilled option. ----- Drilling glass is not that much of an esoteric skill. I've drilled hundreds of tanks ranging from 5 to 200 gallons. My last lfs employment we drilled them using a portable drill, clay for the lubricant well and antifreeze as the lube. Not exactly high tech. The round and now polished glass circle that is leftover is perfect to scribe "TUIT" on, therefore having a round tuit. One can also specify a run of tanks from Perfecto or AGA drilled to your specifications. ----- Once the standpipe has been successfully installed the biggest problem is solved. Besides, those over the side, self leveling siphon rigs do look complicated and fraught with possible screw ups. ----- Been there, done that, replacing fried shop vac motors is a pain. ----- I just wonder also, if by constantly exchanging a small amount of water in the system, perhaps exiting via the sump through an overflow, and entering into the overhead reservoir --a lot of the water quality issues normally corrected by periodic water changes could be addressed in a more frequent, automated and less strenuous manner. Obviously, if one could tap into the house's sewer and water system -- things could get even easier provided any chloramine or chlorine in the water supply is somehow dealt with. ------ Assuming one has decent source water that requires no modification to reach desired parameters. I'm lucky to have a my source a deep well that spews out water with a pH of 6.6, DH 4 and GH 6. On my last install, we constructed a system to store all the wastewater in a "grey water" tank using it to water the lawn and garden. gnatster ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/