>> I had no idea that the catalog was so well known. As I was reading the question and answer posted I had a spark occur and realized I have this catalog. Then I realized that this catalog is from The Oriental Aquarium not just some mail order place in Singapore.<< It is just a cagtalog. I have never quite understood the attraction of this catalog to people outside the trade. People should also understand that it is full of plants that are not commonly available in the USA, and importing them is difficult. OA is challenging to work with. I can give you a few ideas as to what's it like: a) for the most part you do not know what is available until the shipment arrives. If plants are missing from your shipment, then that means they are not available. You can re order the same plant for months and never get it. There were a couple of cryps I ordered every two weeks for two years and never got. They finaly took them out of their catalog. b) The size of the plants can vary drastically. c) About a third of the plants in their catalog are not available, at least they are not making them available to the USA, and several they have not even given prices to yet. Their price list is older than their current catalog. Communication is very difficult. d) for those familiar with the Pets Warehouse lawsuit against fellow hobbyists... it all centered around PW importing plants from Oriental Aquarium. All the complaints of plants being too small, mis labled, missing, whatever was all due to the fact that they were just fowarding the plants still in their original packaging from Oriental and were subject to the wims of Oriental Aquarium. (Of course this had nothing to do with all the other types of complaints against Pets Warehouse, but it was at the core of what started a lot of the whole mess ) Its a nice book. Just like the Tepoot book... pictures of many plants you may never actually get to have. But they are still a great way to get the not so common plants, and the German hybrids. Eventually most of them trickle into the USA if you are patient enough. Robert Hudson www.aquabotanic.com Wet Thumb Forums with moderators Diana Walstad and Roger Miller ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/