> However, I've also had cyanobacteria outbreaks due to 0 ppm PO4 and ~20 ppm > NO3. It occurred in my 55g when I had 4 wpg over it (and knew nothing about > PO4 at the time). I suspect that the plants were suffering from an extreme > PO4 deficiency that lasted for a couple months. This has happened to me also. Actually I had two different strands of Cyanobacteria living together, one diatom variant (Microcystis?) and the more common swirling (Oscillatoria?) sheet-forming slime: http://194.236.255.117/defblog/pictureAction.do?method=view&id=1400 Closeup of the diatom colonies: http://194.236.255.117/defblog/pictureAction.do?method=view&id=1399 When I get N-limited the sheets pops up everywhere, and when I get P-limited the diatom-variant pops up like messy brown stuff ;) on everything in the tank, which might answer Aviels question: >And if so - if N=0.16 ppm and PO4 = 0.01 ppm.... - are we still OK??? :-) No the plants are certainly not. They are very N and P limited, but I'm certain the algae are not 8) I dose heavliy (10 ppm NO3, 1 ppm PO4) every other day to get rid of them both. If I only dose KNO3 the brown colonies arrive and if I only dose KH2PO4 the sheets arrive. I always have to dose them both at the same time at 10:1 to 20:1. // Daniel. ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/