>>The contest, in all it's years, was never presented as a Plant Aquascaping Contest but just an Aquascaping Contest. A few nonplanted tanks are entered each year, as I recall and I think it's usally the in the biotope category. << I was in on the group planning discussion of the first contest, with James Purchase and the rest, and my impression as I remember was it was heavily debated. There has never been total agreement in the ranks if the contest should broaden its scope beyond aquariums and plants, and it seems that some attempts in that direction have not been hugely successful. Not that I want to be accused of throwing negative energy out there, but that is the reality. As far as biotopes, it really depends on how purist you want to be. Biotopes not only need to be better defined, but the judging criteria needs to be better defined specificaly for biotopes. Should there be two or more different classes of biotopes, such as a represenative biotope, (one that generally represents what a typical regional or enviornmental biotope might be) and a literal biotope that must be as close an exact reproduction of a natural biotope as possible with research documentation included with the entry. How serious do you want to get with it? And if scientific accuracey is part of the criteria of the judging, then you need a judge that is qualified in that field. Someone who has researched biotopes, perhaps someone like Ted Colletti. Robert Hudson www.aquabotanic.com ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/