I agree with Phil, the Eheim Pro Series is great. I run the 2128 thermo and the 2229 Wet/dry on a 125g set up. The 2128 Thermo is just the greatest. I got both filters at an E-bay store. I havent found any place that sells them for cheaper. Here's the link: http://stores.ebay.com/the-aquarium-store. Hope this helps-ILAN _______________________________________________ AGA-Member mailing list AGA-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-member