I don't think plants will be too fussy about gravel once some mulm has built up in it. Great right off the bat are Flourite, Onyx, and Eco-complete. There's no reason Floramax shouldn't work well too, although I haven't yet tried it. I think CaribSea used to market it as a laterite product. Re a CO2 compressed gas tank, first find out where you will be refilling the tank. If the operation there swaps tanks as a means of refilling, it might be best to work through them for the initial tank. If they refill *your own* tank, then shop around, including online. Customaquatic.com used to sell 5, 10, and 20 pound aluminum tanks at a good price. They also have a decent solenoid for $28 btw if you're into the extra gadgetry. The extra cost of a larger tank can be made back in the cost of refills -- for example, I pay $9.50 for a 5-pound refill and $10 for a 10 pound refill. Otoh, the larger the tank, the more cumbersome to handle and the more difficult to hide from view. So-called reactors, which are closed containers into which CO2 is inserted via an "airline" and water flows in the top and out the bottom, are the most effective as dissolving all the CO2 into the water. You can make one very easily out of a gravel vacuum tube -- since the bottom is open, this has to be used inside the aquarium. However, a water-tight design means you can have the unit outside the tank where it doesn't detract from the tank aesthetics. Possibly as effective is bubbling the CO2 in the intake of a canister filter. Sometimes folks have trouble with the filter getting airlocked, although this shouldn't happen unless the media becomes too loaded with detritus -- since most canister filters suck water out of the canister, if the media is too loaded and restricting water flow, the vapor pressure is lowered in the canister and gas tends to bubble out. A fine diffuser, air stone or bubbling directly into a powerhead also works. This can be a very economical startup, however, the more of the CO2 can be lost to the atmosphere than with the other methods. You can make an external reactor for a few bucks and a little time and effort: http://www.aquaticscape.com/articles/co2reactor.htm If you make your own, I recommend using epoxy to afix the airline nipple or else use a 1/8 male pipe thread to 1/4 inch tube adapter. The smaller airline nipple has a very small surface area in contact with the reactor so the use of epoxy or a larger fitting can make a more secure joint. Also, it is easier to disconnect the "airline" when necessary if you use a thread-to-tube adapter than a barbed or friction nipple. Good luck, good fun, Scott H. --- Michael San Jose' <sardinero@msn.com> wrote: > Hi folks its me Mike from up here in PA. Figure its quiet > and I can pop my questions in now. I got my new tank. 180 > gallons. > > I am not sure what the recommended method is for > diffusing CO2 into the water is. I use to have an old > Ehein prefilter with a hose going into it but it walked > somewhere when I moved. Also best place to buy a 20 LB > tank. > > Also what's the recommendation on the gravel. I am > thinking about Floramax but not sure about using it > straight or mixing. The American Cichlid Association Annual Convention Just the biggest aquarium hobby convention of the year (would Texas have it any other way?) Ft. Worth, Texas July 21-24 http://www.aca2005.org/ _______________________________________________ AGA-Member mailing list AGA-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-member