cheryl after a full 12 months ( in the left center of a 135 gal) has never exceeded a height of 14 inches with the largest leaf width at under 3 inches. the pups seem to actually grow slower and after 6 months are less than 10 inches in height. if valerie in houston sees this maybe she could tell us how big hers has gotten as i gave her one. rich _______________________________________________ AGA-Member mailing list AGA-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-member