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Re: Which issue? (fwd)
This thought has occured to me at more than one instance in the past two
years, and I think the idea is worth considering. The two magazines do serve
pretty much the same audience, and I am not sure that there is really a need
for two magazines in that space. Dave, for all his other qualities has,
IMHO, put out a very good magazine. If we are interested in pursuing this we
need to be very clear amongst ourselves what we would want in terms of AGA
pages within the magazine, the contest, etc.
So -- my two cents worth for what it's worth.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 7:30 PM
Subject: Which issue? (fwd)
> I thought I already forwarded this to the SC last week, but since I got
> no replies, perhaps I should ask again. Are we still going to wait
> another month for the "mailing problem" to be sorted out before replying
> to Dave? (See message at the bottom of my note here)
>
> On another note, I have an idea for the TAG problem. Just to think about.
> You're all going to laugh at me, but I wonder if we should reconsider
> using PAM as the AGA's magazine.
>
> Back nearly 2 years when we rejected the idea, some of the reasons (much
> of which emminated from me) included "We should give Mary a chance", "What
> exactly IS the AGA without TAG anyway?", "TAG and PAM have different
> focus", and the ubiquotous "Dave's hard to deal with" & "he doesn't have
> the AGA's interest at heart".
>
> OK, so in the intervening time what has happened? We HAVE given Mary a
> chance, and IMO she's blown it several times over. We've started to find
> ways in which to branch out the AGA from TAG, we've seen that TAG and PAM
> do indeed have very similar focus (and in fact have had scuffles over the
> same article appearing in both). Mary's shown herself to be an even worse
> person to deal with than Dave, and Dave has (in Karen's words) bent over
> backwards to help the AGA as part of the hobby in several occasions.
>
> (This shouldn't necessarily enter into any discussion from the AGA side,
> but over at PAM, Dave is having at least some trouble with subscriber
> base.)
>
> OK, what are the remaining downsides? To me, the remaining one is having
> a certain degree of say in the non-article material, i.e. the "AGA Biz"
> section. I would suggest the AGA need at least one 2 or 4-page spread per
> issue to cover news and such, but occasionally might need more (for
> instance, special inserts for the aquascaping contest, or a spread for the
> results). It would still be tough dealing with Dave on a regular basis.
> I know Dorothy and Merrill both have a hard time with this.
>
> - Erik
>
> --
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:33:45 -0700
> From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg@wcf.com>
> To: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Which issue?
>
> Decision time is coming up for the quantity of PAM 7 with Booth's discus
> tanks article to print. We either ship PAM 7 to AGA members or we
> don't. If we don't I will order a smaller number, if we do, I will order
a
> larger number. I need to know which, and soon. Wanna ask the board if
> they just want to do it? Or wait it out? I can use PAM 8 but I don't
> think it will be as pretty as PAM 7.
>
>
>
> --
> Dave Gomberg, San Francisco gomberg at wcf dot com
> NEW Planted Aquaria Magazine: http://www.wcf.com/pam
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