Re: Re: Which issue? (fwd)

["David VillaSunscape" <davidlass@villasunscape.com>]

Good points all. Karen and I have to live with the mess here in Boston, that
is the only reason we would like to keep the bloodshed to a minimum.
One problem that I have been thinking about is pricing. If Dave is getting
$20 or $25 for a subscription to PAM, let's assume we can get the AGA ones
done at $15. We are then going to have to raise our membership fee to, say,
$35. Granted, it will include a subscription to PAM, "a $25 value", but I'm
just wondering what the effects will be.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Which issue? (fwd)


> On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, David VillaSunscape wrote:
>
> > I also think that we can, perhaps, go gently into the night of PAM/TAG
etc..
> > We can position it that we are merging the two publications, and perhaps
> > keep the PAM name with the logo of "The official publication of the AGA"
or
> > the like.
>
> Just to be perfectly clear, I am proposing that we approach Dave with his
> OWN original idea from 2 years back, namely that we:
>
>   * include a subscription to PAM as part of the AGA membership package,
>   * ask only for around 2 pages per issue for AGA "business"
>   * can occasionally negotiate for more space if there's a reason
>     (i.e. contest results).
>
> I do not favor making PAM "an official publication of the AGA".  I think
> that Dave & co. are doing a reasonable job at their publication, and I
> don't think we should muck with it.  I think this was the problem we had
> last time around; we were not comfortable in having someone else publish
> "our magazine."  I guess what I'm thinking is that we just accept that
> it's not "ours", provide it as a service to our members, with this little
> bit of space inside reserved for "our stuff".
>
> In the SCUBA world, lately members of Divers Alert Network (DAN) have been
> receiving copies of Skin Diver magazine.  On the cover, the only
> indication of what's up is a sticker that says "DAN Edition".  But it's
> pretty clear to me what's up -- DAN is now providing us issues of Skin
> Diver as part of our membership.  Fairly clear.
>
> Likewise, if the thing with PAM doesn't work out, it is possible to cancel
> the arrangement without killing off both.
>
> > Dave is going to have to work with someone from AGA who is
> > designated to pull our stuff together and protect our interests, and
perhaps
> > we could offer that to Mary-- I know you will all say that she would
never
> > accept the position, and you are probably correct. Whatever we do, we
have
> > to make it a policy decision on the part of the SC, not a personal
decision
> > to axe Mary. I think we can pull that off.
>
> I realize that you and Karen are very worried about how Mary feels.
>
> I'd be careful here of trying to be nice at the sacrifice of
> purpose.  I think Mary was ineffective at coordinating things between
> other AGA folks and TAG, which is why I have been proposing we replace her
> for the past 6 months.  Perhaps a decision to go with PAM could be spun in
> such a way so as to smooth over this, but to turn this into "oh, it's just
> a new policy, nothing else; would you like to stay on doing the job of
> coordinating things between other AGA folks and PAM?"  would be the exact
> opposite of what we need.
>
>   - Erik
>
> --
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
>
>
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