On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, David VillaSunscape wrote: > I also think that we can, perhaps, go gently into the night of PAM/TAG etc.. > We can position it that we are merging the two publications, and perhaps > keep the PAM name with the logo of "The official publication of the AGA" or > the like. Just to be perfectly clear, I am proposing that we approach Dave with his OWN original idea from 2 years back, namely that we: * include a subscription to PAM as part of the AGA membership package, * ask only for around 2 pages per issue for AGA "business" * can occasionally negotiate for more space if there's a reason (i.e. contest results). I do not favor making PAM "an official publication of the AGA". I think that Dave & co. are doing a reasonable job at their publication, and I don't think we should muck with it. I think this was the problem we had last time around; we were not comfortable in having someone else publish "our magazine." I guess what I'm thinking is that we just accept that it's not "ours", provide it as a service to our members, with this little bit of space inside reserved for "our stuff". In the SCUBA world, lately members of Divers Alert Network (DAN) have been receiving copies of Skin Diver magazine. On the cover, the only indication of what's up is a sticker that says "DAN Edition". But it's pretty clear to me what's up -- DAN is now providing us issues of Skin Diver as part of our membership. Fairly clear. Likewise, if the thing with PAM doesn't work out, it is possible to cancel the arrangement without killing off both. > Dave is going to have to work with someone from AGA who is > designated to pull our stuff together and protect our interests, and perhaps > we could offer that to Mary-- I know you will all say that she would never > accept the position, and you are probably correct. Whatever we do, we have > to make it a policy decision on the part of the SC, not a personal decision > to axe Mary. I think we can pull that off. I realize that you and Karen are very worried about how Mary feels. I'd be careful here of trying to be nice at the sacrifice of purpose. I think Mary was ineffective at coordinating things between other AGA folks and TAG, which is why I have been proposing we replace her for the past 6 months. Perhaps a decision to go with PAM could be spun in such a way so as to smooth over this, but to turn this into "oh, it's just a new policy, nothing else; would you like to stay on doing the job of coordinating things between other AGA folks and PAM?" would be the exact opposite of what we need. - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "showy".