Re: AGA uncommittment (fwd)

[Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>]

I'm with Karen on this one.  Though the video issue only has comments from
one side ("you guys really SHOULD make them available"), the lawsuit issue
has had comments from many directions, including SEVERAL that are very
supportive of our position of non-interference.  Cynthia was disappointed
but very polite about it.  I suspect if we switched positions, there would
be an equal number of angry letters, so I don't think we should, even a
TEENSY bit.  I think that we should all as individuals help support the
APD 6 (which I am doing to the best I can), but the AGA should stay out.

  - Erik

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Karen Randall wrote:

> That sounds reasonable.  It can't hurt to see what the lawyer has to say.
> On the other hand, my gut tells me that this is a no-win situation for us.
> No matter how we respond, or if we don't, we will STILL get flack from
> various parties.  I consider Gary a good friend, but I wonder what he'd do
> if the the RSG treasury was at stake. (I know he has personally already made
> a significant committment to the defense fund, but that's different than
> doing it with an organization's funds)
> 
> Karen
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil Frank" <nfrank@mindspring.com>
> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: AGA uncommittment (fwd)
> 
> 
> > I move that Dave ask his lawyer friend to provide us legal advice (for a
> > fee of course) regarding recommendations for AGA to provide some symbolic
> > help... without putting us at legal risk or compromising our preferred
> > neutral stance. Perhaps we can point readers to both sides (assuming that
> > there is a petSwarehouse side.)
> >
> >  Neil
> >
> > At 04:03 PM 08/20/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> > >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:51:46 -0500
> > >From: Gary Lange <gwlange@mindspring.com>
> > >To: Jack O'Leary <jdo@world.std.com>, Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>,
> > >     Karen Randall <krandall@world.std.com>,
> > >     Mike Hellweg <MichaelAngelaH@aol.com>
> > >Subject: AGA uncommittment
> > >
> > >You know I see the AGA not wanting to get drawn into this suit because it
> > >would be a big drain on the resources and possibly negate all that's been
> > >done, especially in the last 2 years.  BUT isn't there some way that you
> can
> > >even think about putting up a banner that points to some of these URL's?
> > >Something at least minimally should be said in the magazine too with the
> > >appropriate URL's.  Acting like it doesn't exist doesn't seem to be
> sitting
> > >too well with some members.  I really wish you can find something that
> will
> > >show a little middle ground.  Otherwise this moron that started the
> lawsuit
> > >has already won.
> > >
> > >Sincerely,
> > >
> > >Gary Lange
> > >gwlange@mindspring.com
> > >
> > >APD snippet below
> > >---------------------------------------------------
> > >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:22:20 -0600
> > >From: "Roger S. Miller" <rgrmill@rt66.com>
> > >Subject: Re: AGA stance on the defense fund.
> > >
> > >Erik Olson wrote:
> > >
> > >> The AGA steering committee deliberated over whether to
> > >> take an official stance on this about a month ago. Irregardless of how
> we
> > >> feel as individuals in the case, it was decided that it would be
> > >> inappropriate for the AGA as an organization to take an official stance
> on
> > >> this issue.
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks for the news, Erik
> > >
> > >It think it's like Eldridge Cleaver said so long ago.  You're either
> > >part of the problem or you're part of the solution.  I guess we know
> > >where AGA is.
> > >
> > >> Thus, the article in _The Aquatic Gardener_ will be informational
> > >> reporting, there is no link to the defense (or Pets Warehouse, for that
> > >> matter) on our website, and most likely we could not have any official
> > >> activities at the convention.
> > >
> > >Yeah.  Just ignore the problem and it will go away.
> > >
> > >
> > >Roger Miller
> > >
> > >
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