You know, guys. I have no interest in "competing" with anyone. Last year SF was all psyched up to do the convention, then backed out. I don't WANT to do the convention here, I just went to the trouble of doing some initial leg-work to get a committment from local people. I don't want the convention to die under the weight of inertia that so often plagues the AGA. The idea of another "International Summit" sounds great on the surface, but the fact is that it will still be just another convention with a different name. We came close to doubling our attendance this year based on our current format. I would like to think attendance will continue to rise. (I am almost certain of it if it's held in the North East because of the very strong organized hobby in this area... we have a much better network for contacting local hobbyists than most areas of the country) We were already pretty "international" this year... with attendees from Canada and the UK as well as from Japan. The original summit, as I understand it, was quite different in format than our conventions. Wasn't it a group of hand-picked high-level aquarists who met with each other? Yes, they were international, but who really benefitted? Not the general aquarists in any of the countries represented as far as I can tell. That format certainly wouldn't be in the best interests of aquatic gardeners in this country. And if it's simply a set of speakers and panel discussions, we can do the same thing without changing the name of the event. We can also work harder to publicize the event in other countries and encourage people to come IF someone will do the work involved. But it would still only be "international" in that we might entice a few wealthy and avid aquarists, or those already commercially sponsored to come. The average aquarist in all those other countries would still be unable to attend. Heck, I'm not sure the "average" aquatic gardener in THIS country can attend the current AGA convention. As far as how it's organized, or what is done during the convention, whether we do it in Boston, or someone else does it elsewhere, I think it's great to get suggestions from other people. HOWEVER, I strongly believe that the people who are actually doing the work have to have the final say in terms of what is done and how it is done. Then the AGA has to support those decisions. If the AGA starts to try to micro-manage the convention, they have to be ready to put forth the people to get the job(s) done as well. I can tell you right now that the Boston folks (me included) will NOT bail the AGA out if we fiddle around hoping that some "more desirable" location comes through. They have to plan their own annual event, and that requires booking facilities close to a year in advance. I can also tell you I will NOT be available to arrive early and run myself ragged another location for a 3rd year in a row. So you, Neil, or someone else will have to commit to taking extra time off from work and going down there early to help out the local people with details. Believe me, I would love to see someone else run next year's convention, but I'm not even going to start with the idea of "competing" for the honor of doing all that work. If the AGA wants to hold it else where, it's fine with me, but don't expect Boston to stand by as the fall-back position. Likewise, I can't guarantee that the offer will be open for another year. It might be, but the subject would have to be revisited at that time. So please keep those factors in mind as you weigh your options. Karen ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "showy".