I agree with whatErik is saying. It is important thata convention be hosted by a club -- with people -- not a business. Boston should be 2002 Houston 2003 if they have a club there thatwill host it. Most of all -- we need to put together a Convention Committee David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Next convention > On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Karen Randall wrote: > > [Houston] > > BUT, and this is a big but... Who is going to find out whether these people > > are serious, and whether they actually have the resources and committment to > > get the job done? Was it an offer made in the heat of the moment that they > > are going to re-think in the weeks (and months) to come? I know it's a > > "business", but it's a small non-essential service business at the beginning > > of tough economic times. Will they still be there in a year? Will those > > guys be scattered to new jobs and new responsibilities? (remember how > > enthusiastic Art Giacosa was?) Can a committment be obtained from them in > > the next few weeks? Who is in a position to make those deteriminations? Not > > me. > > I have more information to add here. The Senske's were late on their > entry fees to the contest. They never answered my e-mails, and when I > called to see what was up, they sent me to their secretary to see to > things. The check finally arrived three weeks later via "payroll". > > Kathy was concerned that they are new and "unproven"... she felt they were > perhaps a little too eager to please and make an impression on important > folks. She also wondered if they'd be around in a year. This was with me > just saying the Senske's were offering to hold it in Houston... I did not > show her Karen's message. > > Why not have Houston for 2003? If they're still around and interested, it > should work out great. Houston is a great city, and one can collect > nearby. Meanwhile, the Boston club has a tried-and-true track record for > putting on shows, and would do an excellent job. > > Regarding the name change, I also agree with Karen. I think what we have > is great. I do not see the benefit of relabeling it as something larger. > I am very much interested in ACCOMPLISHABLE goals, things that can be > accomplished with the people we have, and things we would LIKE to > accomplish. Neil likes the idea of the international summit, but he's not > the one who actually has to do all the work getting it together. There > were many things Charlene did with the convention that annoyed me (might > as well jot them down: lack of communication or taking input about what > she was doing, method of choosing speakers, roping in volunteers at last > minute instead of working out in advance, not making time for AGA business > or recruitment, too short of a time slot for each speaker, etc), but she's > the boss and she gets to run the convention the way she wants. If I were > running the convention and doing all that work organizing things, the last > thing I'd want is to be dictated to by the steering committee. Frankly, > that's probably why Charlene didn't communicate as much this year... I > think she got a lot of unneeded flack the first convention. > > OK, anyway, what I'm saying is, I think we should go with Boston's offer, > but have the bid formalized, and kindly ask Houston to bid for 2003. > > - Erik > > PS: David, Kathy agrees that Dave should give us a heap of back issues > for FREE if we agreed to bail out PAM subscribers by offering them AGA > memberships! But based on some e-mail I have received from Dave today > (and talking with Kathy at dinner), I think that perhaps we should > distance the AGA as much as possible from PAM now. Dave is about to do > something (sending N copies of back issues as fulfillment for the > remaining N-issue subscriptions) that will not only piss off his entire > membership, but could possibly bring on a lawsuit against him, and he > seems unconcerned about it. Hang on, I'd better start a new message... > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc > When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "showy". > > ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "showy".