Re: PAM "adoption"

["David VillaSunscape" <davidlass@villasunscape.com>]

I thought we had agreed Saturdaynight thatwe would not pick up PAM. I agree
that we should distance ourselves from PAM as muchas posssible.
As I promised Sunday after getting the offers from Amano, I will put
together a proposal for TAg and Amano. I will run this by the SC and Merrill
and Mike Hellweg -- when we have agreed to what we want I will send it on to
Amano.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:26 PM
Subject: PAM "adoption"


> OK.. so based on some e-mail I have received from Dave today (and talking
> with Kathy at dinner), I think that perhaps we should distance the AGA as
> much as possible from PAM now.  Dave is about to do something (sending an
> average of 6 copies of back issues as fulfillment to his remaining 300
> subscribers) that will not only piss off his entire membership, but could
> possibly bring on a lawsuit against him, and he seems unconcerned about
> it.
>
> He is awaiting an "answer" from the AGA on whether it wants to adopt PAM.
> Discussion is officially open on this issue now.  If someone would like to
> make a motion, by all means, go for it.
>
> To recap the issue from my notes from Saturday:
>
>   * Dave has offered to give PAM to Karen, or the AGA.
>
>   * PAM assets include 330 subscribers, its 15 advertisers, a backlog of
>     articles, and a stockpile of back issues
>
>   * PAM liabilities include 1900 promised copies to the 330 subscribers,
>     and loans to Karen, Neil, and Dave himself.
>
>   * There are four jobs in Dave's world:
> "Cowboy" - get articles and photographs
> "Copy/Tech Editing" - "you can pay someone to do this"
> "Design" - Layout and such
> "Production" - Getting to the printers, mailing, etc
>
>   * Dave would like to continue as "cowboy" but not as anything else.
>
>   * Dave wants to continue to pay authors.  He currently pays them double
>     what the magazines pay, but does not pay anyone else for producing
PAM.
>     (Actually, I think he pays Karen, Neil and himself for tech ed and
>     production, but as loans.)
>
>   * Costs: Printing $3500/issue for 1500 copies.  $200 gets you an
>      additional 1000 copies.
>    Authors paid $3500/issue
>    Copy + tech edit $400
>    Production $20x80
>    Mailing 40 cents/issue  (80 cents foreign)
>    Office Supplies $200
>    Ads offset approx $4000 of this?
>
>   * Any of the above may be total BS, subject to change at any moment.
>
> --
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
>
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