I agree with everything Scott said.<g> Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 5:24 PM Subject: Re: AGA Forums (fwd) > Ironic that "sanction" has two opposite meetings, eh? ;-) > > Does the world need another set of forums? I think the > plurality might speak against rather than for the need for > another -- especially if there contiues to be a general > fall off in traffic on lists and forums. > > Do we have something to add that's missing? > > If James falls out -- family emergency, change of heart, > job transfer to Switzerland, whatever -- will Erik end up > with most of the work in his lap because he knows this > stuff and at least some of us don't know diddly-doo about > how they work? > > If AGA moderates, does that present liabilities re content > we are prepared/able to face? I'd like to know what an > attorney says about that. > > Supposing we have good answers for those questions, if > James will and can do the work, then it doesn't sound like > an unreasonable thing. In fact, it might be a way to > cross-market with TAG and boost membership. > > Personally, I prefer lists to forums, but as in many > things, the world population largely seems to disagree with > me. > > > Oh, and one more thing. I wouldn't want an obit forum in > the set. > > sh > --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote: > > Wow, two sanction proposals in the same day... > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:31:50 -0500 > > From: "Hoftiezer, James" <JHoftiezer@advanceamerica.net> > > To: "'erik@thekrib.com'" <erik@thekrib.com> > > Cc: "'jameshoftiezer@charter.net'" > > <jameshoftiezer@charter.net> > > Subject: AGA Forums > > > > > > Erik (erik@thekrib.com), > > Thanks for all the work you did at AGA. I wondered many > > times if you had > > enough time to enjoy it for yourself. > > > > At the conference I mentioned starting a bulletin board > > sanctioned by the > > AGA. I am still wondering if this might be an option. > > I'll go a head and > > warn you that the rest will sound like a > > ramble/brainstorming session. > > > > It would cost $35 to have it hosted on > > www.ipowerweb.com(I get a kickback) > > for the first year, then $100/year after that. There is > > plenty of > > space(800mb) and bandwidth(30gb) available and have > > experience little or no > > downtime with them on my personal site. The web space > > includes the domain > > name and phpBB board running on a MYSSQL database. > > > > I am interested in starting this project for several > > reasons; > > > > -The numerous boards and mailing lists out there prove > > that forums/bulletin > > boards are in demand by people trying to find out more > > about this hobby. > > The number of boards can be confusing and hard to find. > > Many people find > > themselves members on multiple boards. > > > > -With some boards having large numbers of members(AB > > 1475, plantedtank 1275, > > AQ 2300, taopa 180, APD, r.a.f.p) they represent a huge > > pool of potential > > members to AGA. The forums could attract members and > > potentially be an > > added value to membership. > > > > -The boards out there are commercial or lack any type of > > authoritative > > sanction. AGA or ADA are the few non-commercial > > organizations that could > > sanction such a venue and have the authority to attract > > members from other > > boards. The sanction would add credibility lacking in > > home-grown forums. > > > > -Forums can be moderated to prevent a lot of the backlash > > and unprofessional > > behavior seen on mailing list and other forums. Forums > > based on a database > > are easily searched and there would be sufficient storage > > to keep libraries > > and articles as well. With 10x larger memberships on > > bulletin > > boards/forums, it demonstrates a preference when compared > > to mailing lists > > and archives. It also avoids the spam lists and security > > issues of email > > and USENET based lists. > > > > What I am proposing is to create a forum for the AGA, > > sanctioned by the AGA, > > for the promotion of planted aquaria. I will volunteer > > the time, money and > > effort to startup the board. The AGA would approve of > > the format before > > sanctioning it for public access. > > > > Ultimate control and ownership of the forum would reside > > with the AGA board > > of directors, not with me personally. In fact purchase > > of the web space > > could be performed and maintained in the AGA's name. > > > > Moderators would be AGA members and if required could be > > appointed or > > approved by the AGA board. As required, non-members may > > be invited to > > moderate specific topics such as fish:discus or > > fish:cichlids. We may even > > be able to set vendor specific topics moderated by AGA > > sponsors. > > > > Topics would be similar to the AB board. Plant and > > aquascaping topics may > > be more defined. Topics such as the AGA conference or > > contest may be added. > > If the software allows, paying members could be given > > full access to > > advanced topics which would be read-only to non-AGA > > members. In addition to > > being value added, this may help to address the concerns > > of advanced > > hobbyists who no longer want to get mired down in newbie > > questions. Newbies > > would be addressed by moderators and FAQ. > > > > Domain names are available such as; > > Agaonline.net > > Aga-online.org > > Agaforums.com > > Agaforums.net > > Aga-forums.com > > Aga-forums.net > > > > So what do you think? Where should I go from here? > > > > ===== > S. Hieber > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc > When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "incorp". > > ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. 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