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Re: AGA Forums (fwd)



I agree with everything Scott said.<g>

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: AGA Forums (fwd)


> Ironic that "sanction" has two opposite meetings, eh? ;-)
> 
> Does the world need another set of forums? I think the
> plurality might speak against rather than for the need for
> another -- especially if there contiues to be a general
> fall off in traffic on lists and forums.
> 
> Do we have something to add that's missing?
> 
> If James falls out -- family emergency, change of heart,
> job transfer to Switzerland, whatever -- will Erik end up
> with most of the work in his lap because he knows this
> stuff and at least some of us don't know diddly-doo about
> how they work?
> 
> If AGA moderates, does that present liabilities re content
> we are prepared/able to face?  I'd like to know what an
> attorney says about that. 
> 
> Supposing we have good answers for those questions, if
> James will and can do the work, then it doesn't sound like
> an unreasonable thing. In fact, it might be a way to
> cross-market with TAG and boost membership.
> 
> Personally, I prefer lists to forums, but as in many
> things, the world population largely seems to disagree with
> me.
> 
> 
> Oh, and one more thing. I wouldn't want an obit forum in
> the set.
> 
> sh
> --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
> > Wow, two sanction proposals in the same day...
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:31:50 -0500 
> > From: "Hoftiezer, James" <JHoftiezer@advanceamerica.net>
> > To: "'erik@thekrib.com'" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > Cc: "'jameshoftiezer@charter.net'"
> > <jameshoftiezer@charter.net>
> > Subject: AGA Forums
> > 
> > 
> > Erik (erik@thekrib.com),
> > Thanks for all the work you did at AGA.  I wondered many
> > times if you had
> > enough time to enjoy it for yourself.
> > 
> > At the conference I mentioned starting a bulletin board
> > sanctioned by the
> > AGA.  I am still wondering if this might be an option. 
> > I'll go a head and
> > warn you that the rest will sound like a
> > ramble/brainstorming session.
> > 
> > It would cost $35 to have it hosted on
> > www.ipowerweb.com(I get a kickback)
> > for the first year, then $100/year after that.  There is
> > plenty of
> > space(800mb) and bandwidth(30gb) available and have
> > experience little or no
> > downtime with them on my personal site.  The web space
> > includes the domain
> > name and phpBB board running on a MYSSQL database.
> > 
> > I am interested in starting this project for several
> > reasons;
> > 
> > -The numerous boards and mailing lists out there prove
> > that forums/bulletin
> > boards are in demand by people trying to find out more
> > about this hobby.
> > The number of boards can be confusing and hard to find. 
> > Many people find
> > themselves members on multiple boards.
> > 
> > -With some boards having large numbers of members(AB
> > 1475, plantedtank 1275,
> > AQ 2300, taopa 180, APD, r.a.f.p) they represent a huge
> > pool of potential
> > members to AGA.  The forums could attract members and
> > potentially be an
> > added value to membership.
> > 
> > -The boards out there are commercial or lack any type of
> > authoritative
> > sanction.  AGA or ADA are the few non-commercial
> > organizations that could
> > sanction such a venue and have the authority to attract
> > members from other
> > boards.  The sanction would add credibility lacking in
> > home-grown forums.
> > 
> > -Forums can be moderated to prevent a lot of the backlash
> > and unprofessional
> > behavior seen on mailing list and other forums.  Forums
> > based on a database
> > are easily searched and there would be sufficient storage
> > to keep libraries
> > and articles as well.  With 10x larger memberships on
> > bulletin
> > boards/forums, it demonstrates a preference when compared
> > to mailing lists
> > and archives.  It also avoids the spam lists and security
> > issues of email
> > and USENET based lists.
> > 
> > What I am proposing is to create a forum for the AGA,
> > sanctioned by the AGA,
> > for the promotion of planted aquaria.  I will volunteer
> > the time, money and
> > effort to startup the board.  The AGA would approve of
> > the format before
> > sanctioning it for public access.
> > 
> > Ultimate control and ownership of the forum would reside
> > with the AGA board
> > of directors, not with me personally.  In fact purchase
> > of the web space
> > could be performed and maintained in the AGA's name.  
> > 
> > Moderators would be AGA members and if required could be
> > appointed or
> > approved by the AGA board.  As required, non-members may
> > be invited to
> > moderate specific topics such as fish:discus or
> > fish:cichlids.  We may even
> > be able to set vendor specific topics moderated by AGA
> > sponsors.
> > 
> > Topics would be similar to the AB board.  Plant and
> > aquascaping topics may
> > be more defined.  Topics such as the AGA conference or
> > contest may be added.
> > If the software allows, paying members could be given
> > full access to
> > advanced topics which would be read-only to non-AGA
> > members.  In addition to
> > being value added, this may help to address the concerns
> > of advanced
> > hobbyists who no longer want to get mired down in newbie
> > questions.  Newbies
> > would be addressed by moderators and FAQ.
> > 
> > Domain names are available such as;
> > Agaonline.net
> > Aga-online.org
> > Agaforums.com
> > Agaforums.net
> > Aga-forums.com
> > Aga-forums.net
> > 
> > So what do you think?  Where should I go from here?
> > 
> 
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> S. Hieber
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