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Re: AGA Forums (fwd) 2nd Reply



Definitely not a straightforward answer, which would have
been, if I'm understanding this, something like:

---I don't know who the moderators will be, although I am
willing to recruit, I don't plan on doing so without some
clear signal of support from the AGA Board to begin
prototyping. along with that I'd like a membership list.

Thus, the prooject proposal won't be further deveoloped
unless the Board steps up and expresses interest. -----


That's how I'm reading it.
sh



--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
> I didn't feel that he understood my question about 
> accountability/responsibility -- again, read my question
> at the bottom 
> first, THEN his reply.
> 
> In fact, to me THIS reply raised more red flags than the
> first one.  See
> what you think...
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:15:10 -0500
> From: JamesHoftiezer@charter.net
> To: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> Cc: "Hoftiezer, James" <JHoftiezer@advanceamerica.net>
> Subject: Re: AGA Forums
> 
> I can understand that.  If this is successful, it will
> only add to those
> existing duties with new memberships and attention.
> 
> My concerns are similar in nature.  That is why I have
> offered to pay for
> the first year of hosting, to set it up myself and only
> go live once I have
> the support of the AGA.  I think my reputation and
> history will speak for
> itself in this manner.  I'll research, prototype and
> build a turnkey
> product.
> 
> If you believe the AGA will actively support the forum,
> then I will go
> onto the next stage and begin constructing the forum and
> the team.  If there
> is hesitation, please let me know so that we can address
> any concerns up
> front.  If possible a tentative approval would be
> appreciated so that I know
> the level of interest and support.  It will add
> credability to any
> recruitment and avoid any misundertandings.
> 
> Also, is it possible to get a membership & email list, so
> that I can
> concentrate on recruiting existing AGA members?  Short of
> asking everyone, I
> am not away of any directory.
> 
> The first thing would be tentative approval from the
> board.  Then I'll
> purchase the webspace and create the portal.  I'll set up
> the basic topics
> and ask the AGA to review the layout and content.  At the
> same time I will
> recruit moderators and authors from the AGA.  With the
> team established,
> we'll review the portal page, the forum layout and topic
> list, assign the
> moderators and get final AGA approval.  Only then would
> it go live.  If for
> any reason the AGA does not approve the final concept or
> I am unable to
> recruit a full team, we can drop the project in the
> prototype stage.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> To: <JamesHoftiezer@charter.net>
> Cc: "Hoftiezer, James" <JHoftiezer@advanceamerica.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: AGA Forums
> 
> 
> > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 JamesHoftiezer@charter.net wrote:
> >
> > > E) My intention is that the forum/board become the
> property of the AGA.
> In
> > > no way do I want to assert ownership of the board or
> allow it to be seen
> as
> > > my property.  I feel that would be counterprodctive
> to the stated
> purpose.
> > > If for some reason I was unable to continue a
> moderator or AGA member
> within
> > > the forums would have to be promoted by the AGA
> board.
> > > I am volunteering my time to establish and run the
> forum indefinately at
> the
> > > discretion of the AGA board.  I am very flexible in
> that regard.  I feel
> > > that this should be done, but do not feel that it has
> to be me
> personally.
> > > In fact there may be people already in the AGA who
> would be better
> equipped
> > > to do this or whom the AGA may prefer to see as
> senior admin, even if
> only
> > > for appearance sake.  (i.e. - Ghazanfar Ghori may be
> better at setting
> up
> > > the tech of a forum and you as president may be
> officially listed as
> senior
> > > admin.  The moderators and members would do the day
> to day work.  Then I
> > > could just be a member :) )
> >
> > Understand that our concern is not so much whether it's
> the AGA or you who
> > "controls" it.  As a member, you are as much a part of
> the AGA as anyone
> > else.  Pretty much every proposal that has been made to
> the AGA by a
> > member has been placed in charge of that member to
> administrate.
> >
> > Rather, it's the opposite problem!  What seems to be
> the perennial issue
> > with volunteers is getting them to stick with their
> promises. We want a
> > person/team to have specific *commitment* to this
> service, and it *can't*
> > really be anyone currently on the board (we've all got
> way too many jobs
> > already!).  So one of the requirements, just like
> organizing the
> > convention, is that you list people who would be on
> board with the
> > concept.
> >
> >   - Erik
> >
> > -- 
> > Erik Olson
> > erik at thekrib dot com
> >
> 
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