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Re: GWAPA Proposal rough draft2 (fwd)
No problem! I enjoyed sharing a room with Christel, but at the same time, I
missed my "pajama party" with Dorothy!<g>
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Olson" <kathy@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: GWAPA Proposal rough draft2 (fwd)
> Hey, sorry to offer to have Tomoko room with you, for some reason I
> thought she did in Tenn, now I remember it was Dorothy! I agree, she
> deserves her own room.
>
> K
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Karen Randall wrote:
>
> > I agree with much of what Kathy has said. Other thoughts:
> >
> > 1. I don't think that they would need to pay for both Tomoko AND
Amano's
> > person, though. I suspect that Amano will be comfortable enough with
Tomoko
> > after Tennessee and the fact that she translates ALL his articles for us
> > that he won't feel the need for someone else. He paid for Nozomi to
come
> > the last time. I think if he wants him to come, he'd probably willing
to
> > bring him on his own dime again.
> >
> > 2. As far as Tomoko rooming with me, that is dependent on whether
Dorothy
> > is coming or not. Dorothy is my "regular roomie". I set up to share
with
> > Christel this year first because at that point it didn't look like we
had
> > talked Dorothy into coming, and second, I wanted to make sure that
Christel
> > had a really good time, and the opportunity to get out collecting. I
like
> > Tomoko a lot, and would have no problem sharing a room with her, but
Dorothy
> > comes first!<g> Plus, for Amano to work, I think we are all in
agreement
> > that Tomoko makes or breaks it. I think she deserves a room of her own
for
> > that.
> >
> > I agree with Kathy that having Amano come and NOT having him set up a
tank
> > would be a shame, and would probably be a disappointment to people who
heard
> > the rave reviews about it from Chattanooga.
> >
> > The numbers look pretty good to me too, but I wasn't that involved with
that
> > part in the past, so others will ahve to make the final call on that
piece.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kathy Olson" <kathy@thekrib.com>
> > To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: GWAPA Proposal rough draft2 (fwd)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi, (Scott...Edit this email, if forwarded, I was pretty frank in
places)
> > >
> > > I just did a quick look. Things that jump out at me...I like the
speaker
> > > line-up. Not sure on the inner bay one though...pretty localized, and
> > > they have great workshop ideas...not sure they can fit them all in.
In
> > > fact hate to say it but that sounds more like a local speaker topic to
> > > me...now I may be a party pooper, but how would I apply this to MY
TANKS.
> > > I would much rather see some of the things below. Perhaps this is
> > > something that was discussed on the lists. Perhaps this could be a
> > > workshop vs a main talk.
> > >
> > > I would REALLY LOVE to see AMANO set up a TANK. DO A TANK AQUASCAPING
AS
> > > he did in Tennessee....that was just awesome. Then I would like to
see
> > > the tank he sets up AUCTIONED!!! Owning an amano tank would just be
too
> > > cool. I think that would be a big thing. If Ganzafar hasn't seen the
> > > TENN workshop where Amano did this, it is well worth it. Watching him
set
> > > up a tank, brought home those techniques much more than a talk would.
> > > PLEASE, PLEASE, ask them to do this if they get amano.
> > >
> > > If they do get AMANO, TOMOKO SCHUM is a MUST!!! She really does a
better
> > > job interpreting, and carry's the humor as well. His translator still
has
> > > to be there. It means paying for her room etc, and if necessary
airfare
> > > it is WELL WORTH it. I can't remember if she shared a room with Karen
or
> > > not, but if willing to do that, it can cut costs.
> > >
> > > Not sure on the cash bar, don't you have to guarantee so much in sales
for
> > > that...seems like a way to loose money.
> > >
> > > Not sure you have to have a silent auction too....I would leave that
to
> > > people that went this year, not sure how that worked.
> > >
> > > Hotel costs more, but I think it is a good price for Baltimore. I
can't
> > > remember the ACA's cap, but I think it was 89 or so. That being said,
I
> > > wouldn't hesitate to pay it to have a hotel with a shuttle!
> > >
> > > The banquet numbers look OPTIMISTIC, how many went to the banquet in
TX,
> > > what fraction of the total. Amano would be a big banquet draw, but
not
> > > sure he could do a main talk/workshop and banquet. So perhaps Jan, or
> > > perhaps Amano, who knows, more thoughts. But still, the numbers look
high
> > > to me.
> > >
> > > Also need a budget for speaker gifts, I know Karen jumped in and
helped a
> > > lot on this one. But something nice for Amano if here.
> > >
> > > Registration costs look REALLY good, I like those numbers.
> > >
> > > On the field trip at $20, I wouldn't expect a free lunch, so if they
have
> > > to turn people loose for lunch that is okay, but if they get someone
to
> > > cover it that is great.
> > >
> > > Make sure they know EVERY DONATION HAS TO GET A THANK YOU, or else of
> > > course the donor may not ever do it again!
> > >
> > > Perhaps is AMANO did a tank KIM BRYANT would donate lights, then we
would
> > > need to give him program credit. He usually runs things pretty close
and
> > > can't afford to advertise, but supports the AGA in lots of ways. I
would
> > > like to see that rewarded.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, like the topics, like the workshop ideas (which maybe
shifed
> > > around with speaker ideas). Looks aggressive, but I would like to see
a
> > > conference within driving range for folks and thing this is a good
bet.
> > >
> > > Really curious what Larry and Scott have to say.
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Erik Olson wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, so my first impressions are that this is a good start. It
sounds
> > > > doable. And if Larry's really on board to help with hotels (and you
> > Scott
> > > > with budget in general), there's a certain amount of checks and
> > balances.
> > > >
> > > > * I like that they have "themes" in mind already, as opposed to it
> > > > being "just a convention".
> > > >
> > > > * Interesting dual-pronged approach of "The Crypt" and
> > > > "Aquascaping". Not sure if that's good (choice) or bad (too much).
> > > >
> > > > * I guess I'd like to see some worse-case scenarios (notice I
> > > > didn't say "worst"... I just want to see something a little less
> > > > optimistic than this year's baseline!).
> > > >
> > > > * Guess we'll have to talk on the aquascaping contest stuff. I
> > > > like the idea of integrating it better with the convention --
follows
> > what
> > > > I've been gradually building on the last 3 years. And if there's
> > someone
> > > > in particular who's got the interest, then I should bring them in as
we
> > > > start opening the contest for business next year. But if the
entries
> > are
> > > > like previous years, most of the entries would positively SUCK if
> > enlarged
> > > > to 8x10. A few would look nice, but most probably wouldn't. Maybe
> > > > instead there could be some computer displays rotating or
per-category?
> > > > Inkjet-printed prints? 5x7's? Foam-core mounted?
> > > >
> > > > * Didn't see anything on A/V expenses, but I suppose that would be
> > > > getting ahead of ourselves... (did I mention I bought a mixing
console
> > for
> > > > Christmas? My last pre-dadhood stupid purchase.)
> > > >
> > > > Scott, do these numbers look good to you so far?
> > > >
> > > > - Erik
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Erik Olson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Find the attached draft Scott refers to, at
> > > > >
> > > > > http://test.thekrib.com/GWAPA-Proposal-rough-draft2.doc
> > > > >
> > > > > (it's too big to attach)
> > > > >
> > > > > - Erik
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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