Hmm, so according to your spreadsheet at 100...we break even charging 39 for banquet and $49 first 50 and then 59 thereafter. Is that correct? Why such a big jump in profit between 100 and 125 people?? K $49-$59--$35 $49-$59--$39 Projected net results @ 90 paid attendees $(924) $(644) Projected net results @ 92 paid attendees $(544) $(256) Projected net results @ 100 paid attendees $995 $1,305 Projected net results @ 125 paid attendees $5,391 $5,779 Projected net results @ 150 paid attendees $7,335 $7,801 Projected net results @ 175 paid attendees $9,134 $9,678 Projected net results @ 200 paid attendees $10,477 $11,098 Projected net results @ 225 paid attendees $11,619 $12,318 Projected net results @ 250 paid attendees $12,962 $13,738 On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, S. Hieber wrote: > Absolutely. I did jsut that. > > None of us are happy with the prices -- we didn't have any > price info when we more or less focused on the host and if > I had known I might urged for another venue despite GWPA's > eagerness. > > While the Sheraton deal might be retrieved, that hotel and > that deal still has its own drawbacks, including that, with > less rooms in the hotel, we are more likely to be limited > on the upside; the vendor area is separated from the > convention activity area; each of us that's dealt with the > Sheraton staff have been unimpressed with their ability to > do things a hotel ought to be able to do -- conference > calls, computer breakdowns, forgotten clauses in contracts; > no one on site, apparently, that can make approve a deal. > > We could try with the full price on the Banq, but I believe > it will depress demand and you end up without a lot of > savings and a lot less people at the Banq. I favor more > people even with less savings -- hey, when I convert, I > convert ;-) . > > The spreadsheet I sent last weekend factored in reduced > demand for higher Banq costs; computed the estimated > results for three Registration price schemes: $49 for the > fisrt 50 and $59 thereafter; $45 for the first 50 and %45 > thereafter; and a flat $49. > > For each price scheme I computed four Banq prices to the > customers but always at $50 to AGA2K4: > > $35; $40; $45; and $50. > > Correcting the $40 Banq to $39, it looks like the attached > sheet. The key results are highlighted in yellow. > I think folks are more likely to pay $60 for the Reg than > more than $40 for the Banq even if the total works out > about $100 either way. The proposed pricing works out to > $98 except the first 50, which is $10 less. (The main > reason for the early purchase discount rate is that speed > at which the first 50 comes can be taken as a barometer of > total demand.) But we saw last year that most folks are > hesitant to register early. > > The hotel rooms will cost more but the total is the same as > last year -- actually a buck less. The breakeven is still > below 100 paid registrants. > > Still to be worked out is how to lock up Ray's stuff and > how to mitigate the parking charge (pool?) and a million > other things, of course. Note that total attendance has a > much bigger effect on results than whether what we charge > for the Banq. > > sh > > --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote: > > > > Folks, I am not comfortable with the AGA "eating" the > > extra $10, > > effectively reducing the registration to $40. This is > > adding an extra > > $1000 to the expenses. Scott, in your last round of > > spreadsheets did you > > calculate this out? I thought we had only talked about > > increasing the reg > > fees to balance the baqnq fees. > > > > ===== > S. Hieber > > - - - - - - - - > Amano Returns > to the AGA Annual Convention > Nov 12, 13 & 14, 2004 -- Crystal City, Virginia > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster > http://search.yahoo.com ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-sc" in the body of the message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-sc When asked, log in as username is "aga-sc", and password "incorp".