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Re: [AGA-sc] Ouch



Fine with me as long as I can keep myself from talking too much... If I do,
I'll just cough everyone's ear off.  As it is, I'm afraid I ruined the DVD
sound :-(

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Ouch


> I had a brief phone chat with Ray just now and he's going
> to call me back later tonight. I think he'll be speaking
> with Erik between now and then. He told me he had a nice
> talk with Kathy.
>
> The conversation I just had pretty much echoed what is in
> the email below that Erik forwareded from Ray. But I think
> Ray has some more to say and I want to hear it.
>
> I agree this is Board stuff and not MCM. But it will be
> good, imo, to bring Larry up to date after tonight.
>
> How it all gets reflected in the bid doc or future actions
> remains to be seen but I'm sure we can pull things off
> better than this year.
>
> This might end up being one of those times when a
> conference call meeting is appropriate. . .
>
> sh
> --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
>
> > Keeping this off the MCM because I don't think it will do
> > any good for
> > Rick or Ghazanfar to hear.  But it is very important for
> > us to hear.
> >
> > Guess I'll hear from Kathy about thow the phone call
> > went, but this does
> > seem to echo what I heard from others.
> >
> > I got cornered by the president of PVAS during the
> > auction, and he told me
> > that they (PVAS) offered to RUN their auction but were
> > blown off.  The
> > auction software was provided by PVAS, but picked up less
> > than a week
> > before the auction.  Nobody from GWAPA showed up at their
> > highly succesful
> > catfish convention the moneh before, except Ghazanfar who
> > spent an hour at
> > the auction.
> >
> > We're definitely going to have to reconcile this
> > phenomenon of these
> > upstart plant clubs being isolationists from the aquarium
> > hobby as a
> > whole.  There are two possibilities:
> >
> >    1. Learn to be part of the aquarium community, or
> >
> >    2. Do not rely on vendors or other sponsors that are
> > associated with the
> >       larger community.
> >
> > OK, here's the forwarded mail:
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:48:04 -0500
> > From: kingfish <kingfish@buffnet.net>
> > To: Andrew and Alysoun <alysoun@msn.com>, Rodney Conway
> > <rodcon00@yahoo.com>,
> >      David J Snell <David.J.Snell@trw.com>,
> >      Emily Novotny <bowfishes@comcast.net>,
> >      Gerry & Audrey Hoffman <gahajaja@starpower.net>
> > Cc: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> > Subject: Greetings
> >
> > Greetings my fellow hobbyist
> >
> > First of all for those I have visited with this past
> > weekend THANK YOU,
> >
> > I have alot of time to think about the events that took
> > place this past weekend at the Greater Washington Plant
> > Society hosting the Aquatic Gardeners Convention.
> >
> > Please remember we are all volunteers
> >
> > The exectutive of this convention should be ashamed of
> > themself's for not doing what they were told.
> > Lots of folks express ideas to help make this convention
> > a good one, well, just the other side of the coin,
> > It sucked in my book, The Executive of the Aquatic
> > Gardeners ran there asses off trying to make this a good
> > even for everyone involved, MY Hats and toes off to them
> > Erik,Karen,Larry,Cheryl,Scott. as for the
> > people in charge and you know who they are SHAME ON
> > YOU!!!,
> >
> > I know alot of these hobbyist are also members of the
> > Potomac Valley Aquarium Society but they the Plant Club
> > decided to host this convention, I know they PVAS Members
> > have offered Ideas and suggestions on how to host a
> > convention since they just hosted the 1st ever Catfish
> > Convention and did a outstanding,Great,Best Ever
> > Convention in my book JOB.
> > But I guess they GWPS knows everything. well if they fall
> > on there butts its there fault not PVAS, please get this
> > through your heads, it was there screw up.
> > I know where there faults were and have been talking with
> > the AGA Executive about damage control. I have been
> > working on the Manuafacturers/Vendors, Don't worry it
> > shall be corrected, I gave all the vendors/manufactures
> > gifts from KingfishServices and PVAS the Pint Glasses
> > they loved them, more that they got from GWPS. Most of
> > you know all the screw ups that took place please don't
> > hold it against the AGA Executive or its members. Some
> > people just know everything and wanted to be called a
> > Convention Chairperson or persons. well they shall be
> > getting the complaint letters.
> >   Pitty the Plants & Fish these Hobbyist keep. Dumb and
> > Dumber, Curlie Larry &  NO MOE,
> > please keep supporting the Hobby.
> >
> > Aquatically Yours
> >
> > Kingfish  (a Friend of the Hobbyist & Society's)
> >
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