Fine with me as long as I can keep myself from talking too much... If I do, I'll just cough everyone's ear off. As it is, I'm afraid I ruined the DVD sound :-( Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Ouch > I had a brief phone chat with Ray just now and he's going > to call me back later tonight. I think he'll be speaking > with Erik between now and then. He told me he had a nice > talk with Kathy. > > The conversation I just had pretty much echoed what is in > the email below that Erik forwareded from Ray. But I think > Ray has some more to say and I want to hear it. > > I agree this is Board stuff and not MCM. But it will be > good, imo, to bring Larry up to date after tonight. > > How it all gets reflected in the bid doc or future actions > remains to be seen but I'm sure we can pull things off > better than this year. > > This might end up being one of those times when a > conference call meeting is appropriate. . . > > sh > --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote: > > > Keeping this off the MCM because I don't think it will do > > any good for > > Rick or Ghazanfar to hear. But it is very important for > > us to hear. > > > > Guess I'll hear from Kathy about thow the phone call > > went, but this does > > seem to echo what I heard from others. > > > > I got cornered by the president of PVAS during the > > auction, and he told me > > that they (PVAS) offered to RUN their auction but were > > blown off. The > > auction software was provided by PVAS, but picked up less > > than a week > > before the auction. Nobody from GWAPA showed up at their > > highly succesful > > catfish convention the moneh before, except Ghazanfar who > > spent an hour at > > the auction. > > > > We're definitely going to have to reconcile this > > phenomenon of these > > upstart plant clubs being isolationists from the aquarium > > hobby as a > > whole. There are two possibilities: > > > > 1. Learn to be part of the aquarium community, or > > > > 2. Do not rely on vendors or other sponsors that are > > associated with the > > larger community. > > > > OK, here's the forwarded mail: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:48:04 -0500 > > From: kingfish <kingfish@buffnet.net> > > To: Andrew and Alysoun <alysoun@msn.com>, Rodney Conway > > <rodcon00@yahoo.com>, > > David J Snell <David.J.Snell@trw.com>, > > Emily Novotny <bowfishes@comcast.net>, > > Gerry & Audrey Hoffman <gahajaja@starpower.net> > > Cc: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> > > Subject: Greetings > > > > Greetings my fellow hobbyist > > > > First of all for those I have visited with this past > > weekend THANK YOU, > > > > I have alot of time to think about the events that took > > place this past weekend at the Greater Washington Plant > > Society hosting the Aquatic Gardeners Convention. > > > > Please remember we are all volunteers > > > > The exectutive of this convention should be ashamed of > > themself's for not doing what they were told. > > Lots of folks express ideas to help make this convention > > a good one, well, just the other side of the coin, > > It sucked in my book, The Executive of the Aquatic > > Gardeners ran there asses off trying to make this a good > > even for everyone involved, MY Hats and toes off to them > > Erik,Karen,Larry,Cheryl,Scott. as for the > > people in charge and you know who they are SHAME ON > > YOU!!!, > > > > I know alot of these hobbyist are also members of the > > Potomac Valley Aquarium Society but they the Plant Club > > decided to host this convention, I know they PVAS Members > > have offered Ideas and suggestions on how to host a > > convention since they just hosted the 1st ever Catfish > > Convention and did a outstanding,Great,Best Ever > > Convention in my book JOB. > > But I guess they GWPS knows everything. well if they fall > > on there butts its there fault not PVAS, please get this > > through your heads, it was there screw up. > > I know where there faults were and have been talking with > > the AGA Executive about damage control. I have been > > working on the Manuafacturers/Vendors, Don't worry it > > shall be corrected, I gave all the vendors/manufactures > > gifts from KingfishServices and PVAS the Pint Glasses > > they loved them, more that they got from GWPS. Most of > > you know all the screw ups that took place please don't > > hold it against the AGA Executive or its members. Some > > people just know everything and wanted to be called a > > Convention Chairperson or persons. well they shall be > > getting the complaint letters. > > Pitty the Plants & Fish these Hobbyist keep. Dumb and > > Dumber, Curlie Larry & NO MOE, > > please keep supporting the Hobby. > > > > Aquatically Yours > > > > Kingfish (a Friend of the Hobbyist & Society's) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AGA-sc mailing list > > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > > > > _______________________________________________ > AGA-sc mailing list > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc