[AGA-sc] Re: TAG -- some personal views

["Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>]

Scott wrote:

> Onto AGA-SC? Fine with me. I only started this here sort of
> by accident, coming off another discussion.
>
> My only negs re GG are the various ball-drops with the
> convention that we have discussed ad yuckum. Maybe I
> expected too much -- I certainly believed the commitment
> had been for more. Maybe I'm just sore. :-\

Certainly balls were dropped, and I think Ghazanfar's (at least outward)
Eastern unflappability was disconcerting.  However, when you look at the
whole picture, including his inexperience with planning a major event, as
well as how much got shifted onto his shoulders directly because so many
other people backed out on him, another person might have quit outright.
(or had a nervous breakdown, which wouldn't have served well either<g>)  I
actually think that the fact that he APPEARED so calm and collected is part
of what made the chaos invisible to many of the non-management
conference-goers.  I also think that he learned from the mistakes made, and
will be a valuable influence on the next conference team.  He is certainly
not a hot-head.<g>

The bottom line for me, in terms of who should or shouldn't be on the
Advisory list, is that we must feel comfortable that they will NOT abuse the
"inside information" they are privy to on the list.  We all need to feel
that we can speak freely.  I think the number of conversations that have
gone off-list recently is an indication that we currently DON'T feel that we
can.

Oh, I thought of someone else on the list... Ann.  I have no objections at
all to her staying, and with her on-going role as t-shirt sales person, it
is certainly appropriate for her to be there.

Karen

> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
>
> >
> > > Who's On the MCM list? Memory test: Besides the BoD,
> > > there's Larry, Rick Dotson, Ghazanfar Ghori, Mike
> > Hellwig,
> > > Sean Murphy, Jay . . . who am I missing?
> >
> > There are MANY things I would feel the need to sensor
> > with both Sean and Jay
> > on the list.  As I said, I THINK we can trust Ghazanfar,
> > because at least as
> > far as I've seen, he seems to be discrete.  Rick, I just
> > don't know or have
> > a strong opinion one way or the other.
> >
> > I agree that if we could GET Ben involved at a higher
> > level, it would be
> > great.  But I don't know if he's willing.
> >
> > Larry, I'd still like to see move up to BOD status.
> >
> > > I never gave much thought to how one goes about
> > dropping
> > > someone from the list -- send them a note saying,
> > "Thanks
> > > for your help, since your AGA tasks have ended, you are
> > > being released from the MCM mail list"? Just silently
> > drop
> > > them? Tell them we're making room for the AG2K5 team?
> >
> > I think that if we drop the people who were added JUST
> > for the convention
> > soon, thanking them for their work on the convention, it
> > would be perceived
> > as appropriate.  That's what they were there for, and
> > it's over now.  If we
> > wait too long, I think it would be trickier.
> >
> > > I don't know about GG and JL. Personally, I'd rather
> > see
> > > someone like Ben Bolton if we could get him. He's
> > worked
> > > hard for AGA, even if incidentally. He runs
> > (electronically
> > > anyway) in the same crowd as GG, JL, Ben, etc. but I've
> > > never heard him give the AGA a bad rap. Otoh, he's not
> > > asking to be involved.
> >
> > Have you ever seen Ghazanfar post anything negative?
> >
> > > JL has given me great pause recently. Imo, his view of
> > the
> > > AGA and Board members is much too negative and his view
> > of
> > > himself, his web talents, and his photography is much
> > too
> > > high for him to be a good team player. I belive he sees
> > his
> > > role as correcting AGA, as moving it forward from the
> > > inertia of the fogies that have kept it in the stone
> > age.
> >
> > I would definitely NOT be comfortable discussing anything
> > of any depth with
> > Jay on the list.  He may grow up in time and become more
> > of a team player,
> > but his actions say that he's not there yet.
> >
> > Again, should we move this discussion to the BOD list?
> >
> > Karen
>
>


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