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From: "Dave Gomberg" <gomberg1@wcf.com>
To: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
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> As usual, Tom did 70% of the lines and 10% of the info:
>
> From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 03:02:28 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> I was talking and thinking at the AGA convention about having the
> meeting this year here in SF or close by.  Who is serious about
> this?  Just me.......okay......  I have a few things to say to make
> this happen here but it'll be worth it and we can have a strong turn
> out here for sure.
>
> We need to find a meeting place in about a month for Nov's
> meeting(Veteran's day weekend) with a decent reasonable rate but a
> nice place to be.
>
> This will take work, but it will be worth it.  It will also help our
> club.
>
> What say you?  A new Year's resolution?  We have 2-3 speakers here
> already.  Amano like the west Coast.  Claus does also, Dave Wilson
> from AUST might be interesting.
>
> Regards,
> Tom Barr
>
>
> From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:44:34 -0800
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Tom, I looked far and wide a couple of years ago and the best deal is
> Monterey.  I can give a talk sometime about hotel rates after owning a
> motel in South Lake Tahoe for a year and learning a lot about the inside
of
> the business.   But we ought to be able to make something work in Monterey
> or nearby.
>
>
> From: "bill_harada" <wkharada@hotmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:29:15 -0000
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Is it critical that the actual event location be in a "high-profile"
> city? Everyone loves to visit SFO, but expense is always a factor
> there.
>
> Monterey would be great, but travel in for out-of-towners would be
> an added hassle since it's a 90-minute drive from any bay-area
> airports. What about areas like San Jose or somewhere on the
> penninsula?
>
> From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:27:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Monterey is doable.  I have some friends there.  We also have the
> best location but it's a far from the central area where folks have
> tanks, LFS's, airport (very important), as a field or side trip, it
> would be good though.  Anything near Oakland airport also, or SJ.
>
> I'm attending a conference there in Jan and can check out the rates.
>
> Regards,
> Tom Barr
>
> From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:35:12 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
> SJ, Oakland is fine.
>
> The main thing, unless you want everyone to fly here, then get
> cab/rent a car etc and schedule that, many folks come in all
> different hours and need an easy commute to the hotel.
>
> I like the area and the MBA a lot.  But the other parts with transpo
> need to be dealt with.  Room rates run about 90$ a night or so which
> is about the deal rate we would get down there based on the Western
> Aqautic Weed management event I'm attending 3 weeks from now.
>
> I'll see about the transportation issues from SFO from those folks.
>
> But this is quite doable and the price is right for most AGA members
> and the BOD for AGA.  If we clear that hurdle, then this can happen
> for SFBAAPS.  So there is some incentative for you all.
>
> This will help everyone, win win.
>
> Regards,
> Tom Barr
>
> From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:57:45 -0800
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
>
> At 08:29 12/26/2004, bill_harada wrote:
>
>  >Monterey would be great, but travel in for out-of-towners would be
>  >an added hassle since it's a 90-minute drive from any bay-area
>  >airports.
>
> Actually, flights into SFO, OAK, SJO and MRY (Monterey) are all the
> same fare.
>
>
>
> From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:59:46 -0800
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> At 11:35 12/26/2004, Thomas  Barr wrote:
>  >SJ, Oakland is fine.
>  >
>  >The main thing, unless you want everyone to fly here, then get cab/rent
a
>  >car etc and schedule that, many folks come in all different hours and
need
>  >an easy commute to the hotel.
>
> I have run a meeting in Pebble Beach (right next to Monterey) and meeting
> folks at MRY is a piece of cake.   We met every incoming flight that had
> attendees on it.  There were only about six we had to meet.
>
>
> From: "bill_harada" <wkharada@hotmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:18:07 -0000
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Really? I was checking fares on Yahoo and flying into MRY was at
> least $70 more (up to near $300 more) than flying into SFO from JFK,
> DFW, IAD, CHI, and SEA.
>
> From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:31:21 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Sounds good.
> I'll talk to my big boss about it.
>
> Regards,
> Tom Barr
>
>
>
> From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:41:08 -0800
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> My understanding was that the fare was the same because all those airports
> were considered SFO for fare purposes.   It may be that the airlines that
> have MRY flights cost more?
>
> From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:47:05 -0800
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> I just checked UAL and it was $318 to SFO from IAD and $338 to MRY
>
>
>
>
> From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:48:45 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Well, folks are ot going to do that much outside of the event unless
> they have plenty of time,come early etc.  So MBA and the town are
> the sale.  Folks can drive there, rent cars, car/Van pool etc.
>
> Chattanooga was that way for many folks as well(not close to main
> airports).  I drove from Nashville(2.5 hours).
>
> We can do the aquarium loop, Albany and Ocean Aquarium, perhaps some
> south bay stuff, or we can send them to the delta in Stockton for a
> boat ride to see real weed issues.  There is also some nice parks
> down HWY 1 south and the Santa CRuz mountains offer a lot not far
> away.  That will be the field trip, a day eariler.  Friday, MBA etc.
>
> Kayaking in the kelp is also fun and there are enough activities
> there to keep folks busy outside of the event.
>
> Mark Faulkner is now been promoted to curator so I'll see what we
> can work out with him, I'm sure a behind the scene tour can be
> arranged, there is no place like MBA and AGA will druel about that.
>
> So I will certainly look into this.
>
> Tom Barr
>
> From: "bill_harada" <wkharada@hotmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:50:04 -0000
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Oh, I see now. I was just looking at lowest fare...wasn't comparing
> fares within the same carrier.
>
>
> From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:50:37 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
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>
>
>
> Consider the TN event, very similar as far as location issues.
>
> Not close to main hubs, but close enough(Atlanta/Nashville).
>
> Regards,
> Tom Barr
>
>
>
> From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:52:48 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> So are you two interested in really selling this to the AGA?  The
> group will be invigorated, it'll mean a cool thing to look forward
> to later this year.  I'll talk to Karen and Eric Olsen, I already
> did back in Nov and with GWAPA.
>
> Our time has come.
>
> Regards,
> Tom Barr
>
>
> From: nycsfo@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:38:38 -0500
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> I all for a AGA convention out this way...and Monterey sounds like
> the best bet.  We have connections at the Aquarium via Mark, they
> have the only great white shark in captivity living 100 days plus
> and counting, cannery row and all the shops and eateries make it
> nice, and we can perhaps do something in the bay as Tom suggests.
> If Dave says Monterey could be the best venue concerning hotel
> rates, I'd run with it.
>
> The best thing for me is I can drag the family down there and they
> will have plenty to do while I attend the "boring plant meetings".
> ;^)
>
> So...that's one vote for me for Monterey, and my offer of help for
> the cause.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Laflamme
>
>
>
> From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:51:42 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2K5
>
>
> I'm heading down that way and can discuss it with the local folks.
> I sent Eric, Karen, Scott etc a floater prosal, Karen and the group
> seem pretty interested.
>
> I think this can and will happen if we have some folks willing to
> help out some here.  I'll deal with Hotel/meeting stuff.  I'll
> speak, I'll help with getting the speakers, folks scheduled, etc.
>
> We can talk group to group with past host, DWF, GWAPA etc for what
> is required from sfbaaps.  We have many skills within the group
> so......I think it's diverse and large enough to do this and will
> help us all.
>
> Regards,
> Tom Barr
>
>
> From: fdeznaluis@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:01:18 EST
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
>
> Yes, Please have it there I can get all the vendors I had back in 2002 and
> probably more and not only that I can assure you many people will be
willing to
> help to make this happen! If my help is any good please count me in!
> Merry Christmas
> Luis Navarro
> Houston TX
>
>
> From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:51:56 -0800
> Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
>
> I have been thinking about this some, and think if we are to do this we
> need a committed team.  That means folks who will take on and do the job,
> even if it takes five hours a week for the next year.   And putting in a
20
> hour week the week before the meeting (and attending the meeting of
course).
>
> Here is the team I have in mind:
>
> EmCee         Erik?  Dave?   Tom?   Steve Dixon?
> Program       TBA
> Field Trips   Tom Barr
> Hotel         Dave Gomberg
> MBA liaison   Mark?
> Registration  TBA  Naomi?  Andrew?  Troi?
> Spkr liaison  Karen Randall
> Local shops   Michael Laflamme
> Finance       Dave Gomberg
> Restaurants   TBA  Alan Kaufmann????
>
> I did not ask Tom for more because I want him to have the time available
to
> do a killer job on the field trip(s) as we know only Tom can.  I would
hope
> he could arrange 2-3 trips if the time permits.   And I would like him to
> give a great talk about them very early in the meeting while attendees
> could still be added.
>
> The registration job is to manage the creation of the registration packets
> and make sure they are right and ready when needed.  It also involves
> editing and printing the programs.
>
> Alan, the restaurant job means to check out local restaurants and prepare
a
> restaurant list for attendees.
>
> If your name does not appear above but you want to work on the convention,
> please email me off list.
>
> Is everyone on board for this?
>
>
>
> From: nycsfo@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 22:14:54 -0500
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Count me in Dave.  I think you selected a proper job for me.
>
> Michael Laflamme
>
>
>
> From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:25:59 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
>
> We could sure use any help and experiences Luis, thanks for the kind
offer.
>
> Regards,
> Tom Barr
>
>
>
>
> From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:34:36 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Committed? Alan lets me out once a week:)
>
> "I have been thinking about this some,"
>
> Most of us have been:-)
>
> " and think if we are to do this we
> need a committed team.  That means folks who will take on and do the job,
> even if it takes five hours a week for the next year.   And putting in a
20
> hour week the week before the meeting (and attending the meeting of
course)."
>
> Yep.
>
>
> "EmCee         Erik?  Dave?   Tom?   Steve Dixon?"
>
> No problem if needed.
>
> "Field Trips   Tom Barr"
>
> Already done.
>
> "I did not ask Tom for more because I want him to have the time available
to
> do a killer job on the field trip(s) as we know only Tom can.  I would
hope
> he could arrange 2-3 trips if the time permits.   And I would like him to
> give a great talk about them very early in the meeting while attendees
> could still be added."
>
> Sure.  I'd like to add folks as they wish to hop on board as well.
> Mark also knows the place near by very well.
>
> "The registration job is to manage the creation of the registration
packets
> and make sure they are right and ready when needed.  It also involves
> editing and printing the programs."
>
> This will be work.
>
> "Alan, the restaurant job means to check out local restaurants and prepare
a
> restaurant list for attendees."
>
> There's a ton of food places in Monterey to eat at.
> Ideally a semi short walk to MBA for the location.
>
> Scott is going to send the formal proposal after the BOD approves it from
> the AGA.
> I will forward this to everyone for viewing.
>
> Regards,
> Tom Barr
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Jim Lockhart <jlockhar@cisco.com>
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:36:52 -0800
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Count me in too, I'm sure there is a ton of stuff we will need volunteers
> for. Monterey would be great, I'm heading down there for a couple of days
> right now.
>
> I think Jeff and I could do a good job on the plant auction.
>
> It puts places like Albany about 2+ hours drive away, but I guess we can
> work that out as many of us will have cars down there.
>
> How many people on average attend the AGA conference ?
>
> Very exciting, lets arrange a get-together in Jan to discuss this in more
> detail. OH Volunteers ?
>
> Jim.
>
>
>
> From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:50:44 -0800
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Thank you Jim.   I have added you and Jeff to the list.   We will need
> commitment letters at some point, but not yet.   AGA wants to make sure
the
> next convention is staffed by folks who will follow thru.
>
>
> From: "DAN HAYES" <uncommonsong@msn.com>
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:51:07 -0800
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
>
> Hey Dave. Let me know what I can do to help. I have some extra time right
> now, so let me know.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
> From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:37:40 -0800
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
>
> Gee, Dan, there is not a lot to do till we have a request to do something.
>
> Although SFBAAPS should likely be the bidder on this proposal, it is
really
> the major players (volunteers) and their written commitment to carry thru
> on their promises that will win or lose the deal.  So we should all be
> thinking if we are sure enough to put our promise to work into writing.
>
>
> From: "DAN HAYES" <uncommonsong@msn.com>
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:42:17 -0800
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
>
> Got it. If there's anything I can do, let me know.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:25:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Greg Fiske <gfiske2@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
>
>
> Dave, I'd like to help in any way I can.&nbsp; I am moving back to
> southern California in June, but will still attend the
> convention and hopefully can help in some way during the show.
> Thanks, Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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