----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Gomberg" <gomberg1@wcf.com> To: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: Log of mail reduced from 3749 lines to 500.... > As usual, Tom did 70% of the lines and 10% of the info: > > From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 03:02:28 -0800 (PST) > Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > I was talking and thinking at the AGA convention about having the > meeting this year here in SF or close by. Who is serious about > this? Just me.......okay...... I have a few things to say to make > this happen here but it'll be worth it and we can have a strong turn > out here for sure. > > We need to find a meeting place in about a month for Nov's > meeting(Veteran's day weekend) with a decent reasonable rate but a > nice place to be. > > This will take work, but it will be worth it. It will also help our > club. > > What say you? A new Year's resolution? We have 2-3 speakers here > already. Amano like the west Coast. Claus does also, Dave Wilson > from AUST might be interesting. > > Regards, > Tom Barr > > > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:44:34 -0800 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Tom, I looked far and wide a couple of years ago and the best deal is > Monterey. I can give a talk sometime about hotel rates after owning a > motel in South Lake Tahoe for a year and learning a lot about the inside of > the business. But we ought to be able to make something work in Monterey > or nearby. > > > From: "bill_harada" <wkharada@hotmail.com> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:29:15 -0000 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Is it critical that the actual event location be in a "high-profile" > city? Everyone loves to visit SFO, but expense is always a factor > there. > > Monterey would be great, but travel in for out-of-towners would be > an added hassle since it's a 90-minute drive from any bay-area > airports. What about areas like San Jose or somewhere on the > penninsula? > > From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:27:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Monterey is doable. I have some friends there. We also have the > best location but it's a far from the central area where folks have > tanks, LFS's, airport (very important), as a field or side trip, it > would be good though. Anything near Oakland airport also, or SJ. > > I'm attending a conference there in Jan and can check out the rates. > > Regards, > Tom Barr > > From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:35:12 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > SJ, Oakland is fine. > > The main thing, unless you want everyone to fly here, then get > cab/rent a car etc and schedule that, many folks come in all > different hours and need an easy commute to the hotel. > > I like the area and the MBA a lot. But the other parts with transpo > need to be dealt with. Room rates run about 90$ a night or so which > is about the deal rate we would get down there based on the Western > Aqautic Weed management event I'm attending 3 weeks from now. > > I'll see about the transportation issues from SFO from those folks. > > But this is quite doable and the price is right for most AGA members > and the BOD for AGA. If we clear that hurdle, then this can happen > for SFBAAPS. So there is some incentative for you all. > > This will help everyone, win win. > > Regards, > Tom Barr > > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:57:45 -0800 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > > At 08:29 12/26/2004, bill_harada wrote: > > >Monterey would be great, but travel in for out-of-towners would be > >an added hassle since it's a 90-minute drive from any bay-area > >airports. > > Actually, flights into SFO, OAK, SJO and MRY (Monterey) are all the > same fare. > > > > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:59:46 -0800 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > At 11:35 12/26/2004, Thomas Barr wrote: > >SJ, Oakland is fine. > > > >The main thing, unless you want everyone to fly here, then get cab/rent a > >car etc and schedule that, many folks come in all different hours and need > >an easy commute to the hotel. > > I have run a meeting in Pebble Beach (right next to Monterey) and meeting > folks at MRY is a piece of cake. We met every incoming flight that had > attendees on it. There were only about six we had to meet. > > > From: "bill_harada" <wkharada@hotmail.com> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:18:07 -0000 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Really? I was checking fares on Yahoo and flying into MRY was at > least $70 more (up to near $300 more) than flying into SFO from JFK, > DFW, IAD, CHI, and SEA. > > From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:31:21 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Sounds good. > I'll talk to my big boss about it. > > Regards, > Tom Barr > > > > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:41:08 -0800 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > My understanding was that the fare was the same because all those airports > were considered SFO for fare purposes. It may be that the airlines that > have MRY flights cost more? > > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:47:05 -0800 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > I just checked UAL and it was $318 to SFO from IAD and $338 to MRY > > > > > From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:48:45 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Well, folks are ot going to do that much outside of the event unless > they have plenty of time,come early etc. So MBA and the town are > the sale. Folks can drive there, rent cars, car/Van pool etc. > > Chattanooga was that way for many folks as well(not close to main > airports). I drove from Nashville(2.5 hours). > > We can do the aquarium loop, Albany and Ocean Aquarium, perhaps some > south bay stuff, or we can send them to the delta in Stockton for a > boat ride to see real weed issues. There is also some nice parks > down HWY 1 south and the Santa CRuz mountains offer a lot not far > away. That will be the field trip, a day eariler. Friday, MBA etc. > > Kayaking in the kelp is also fun and there are enough activities > there to keep folks busy outside of the event. > > Mark Faulkner is now been promoted to curator so I'll see what we > can work out with him, I'm sure a behind the scene tour can be > arranged, there is no place like MBA and AGA will druel about that. > > So I will certainly look into this. > > Tom Barr > > From: "bill_harada" <wkharada@hotmail.com> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:50:04 -0000 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Oh, I see now. I was just looking at lowest fare...wasn't comparing > fares within the same carrier. > > > From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:50:37 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean > > > > Consider the TN event, very similar as far as location issues. > > Not close to main hubs, but close enough(Atlanta/Nashville). > > Regards, > Tom Barr > > > > From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:52:48 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > So are you two interested in really selling this to the AGA? The > group will be invigorated, it'll mean a cool thing to look forward > to later this year. I'll talk to Karen and Eric Olsen, I already > did back in Nov and with GWAPA. > > Our time has come. > > Regards, > Tom Barr > > > From: nycsfo@aol.com > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:38:38 -0500 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > I all for a AGA convention out this way...and Monterey sounds like > the best bet. We have connections at the Aquarium via Mark, they > have the only great white shark in captivity living 100 days plus > and counting, cannery row and all the shops and eateries make it > nice, and we can perhaps do something in the bay as Tom suggests. > If Dave says Monterey could be the best venue concerning hotel > rates, I'd run with it. > > The best thing for me is I can drag the family down there and they > will have plenty to do while I attend the "boring plant meetings". > ;^) > > So...that's one vote for me for Monterey, and my offer of help for > the cause. > > Regards, > > Michael Laflamme > > > > From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:51:42 -0800 (PST) > Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2K5 > > > I'm heading down that way and can discuss it with the local folks. > I sent Eric, Karen, Scott etc a floater prosal, Karen and the group > seem pretty interested. > > I think this can and will happen if we have some folks willing to > help out some here. I'll deal with Hotel/meeting stuff. I'll > speak, I'll help with getting the speakers, folks scheduled, etc. > > We can talk group to group with past host, DWF, GWAPA etc for what > is required from sfbaaps. We have many skills within the group > so......I think it's diverse and large enough to do this and will > help us all. > > Regards, > Tom Barr > > > From: fdeznaluis@aol.com > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:01:18 EST > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > > Yes, Please have it there I can get all the vendors I had back in 2002 and > probably more and not only that I can assure you many people will be willing to > help to make this happen! If my help is any good please count me in! > Merry Christmas > Luis Navarro > Houston TX > > > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:51:56 -0800 > Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > > I have been thinking about this some, and think if we are to do this we > need a committed team. That means folks who will take on and do the job, > even if it takes five hours a week for the next year. And putting in a 20 > hour week the week before the meeting (and attending the meeting of course). > > Here is the team I have in mind: > > EmCee Erik? Dave? Tom? Steve Dixon? > Program TBA > Field Trips Tom Barr > Hotel Dave Gomberg > MBA liaison Mark? > Registration TBA Naomi? Andrew? Troi? > Spkr liaison Karen Randall > Local shops Michael Laflamme > Finance Dave Gomberg > Restaurants TBA Alan Kaufmann???? > > I did not ask Tom for more because I want him to have the time available to > do a killer job on the field trip(s) as we know only Tom can. I would hope > he could arrange 2-3 trips if the time permits. And I would like him to > give a great talk about them very early in the meeting while attendees > could still be added. > > The registration job is to manage the creation of the registration packets > and make sure they are right and ready when needed. It also involves > editing and printing the programs. > > Alan, the restaurant job means to check out local restaurants and prepare a > restaurant list for attendees. > > If your name does not appear above but you want to work on the convention, > please email me off list. > > Is everyone on board for this? > > > > From: nycsfo@aol.com > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 22:14:54 -0500 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Count me in Dave. I think you selected a proper job for me. > > Michael Laflamme > > > > From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:25:59 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > > We could sure use any help and experiences Luis, thanks for the kind offer. > > Regards, > Tom Barr > > > > > From: Thomas Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:34:36 -0800 (PST) > Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Committed? Alan lets me out once a week:) > > "I have been thinking about this some," > > Most of us have been:-) > > " and think if we are to do this we > need a committed team. That means folks who will take on and do the job, > even if it takes five hours a week for the next year. And putting in a 20 > hour week the week before the meeting (and attending the meeting of course)." > > Yep. > > > "EmCee Erik? Dave? Tom? Steve Dixon?" > > No problem if needed. > > "Field Trips Tom Barr" > > Already done. > > "I did not ask Tom for more because I want him to have the time available to > do a killer job on the field trip(s) as we know only Tom can. I would hope > he could arrange 2-3 trips if the time permits. And I would like him to > give a great talk about them very early in the meeting while attendees > could still be added." > > Sure. I'd like to add folks as they wish to hop on board as well. > Mark also knows the place near by very well. > > "The registration job is to manage the creation of the registration packets > and make sure they are right and ready when needed. It also involves > editing and printing the programs." > > This will be work. > > "Alan, the restaurant job means to check out local restaurants and prepare a > restaurant list for attendees." > > There's a ton of food places in Monterey to eat at. > Ideally a semi short walk to MBA for the location. > > Scott is going to send the formal proposal after the BOD approves it from > the AGA. > I will forward this to everyone for viewing. > > Regards, > Tom Barr > > > > > > > From: Jim Lockhart <jlockhar@cisco.com> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:36:52 -0800 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Count me in too, I'm sure there is a ton of stuff we will need volunteers > for. Monterey would be great, I'm heading down there for a couple of days > right now. > > I think Jeff and I could do a good job on the plant auction. > > It puts places like Albany about 2+ hours drive away, but I guess we can > work that out as many of us will have cars down there. > > How many people on average attend the AGA conference ? > > Very exciting, lets arrange a get-together in Jan to discuss this in more > detail. OH Volunteers ? > > Jim. > > > > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:50:44 -0800 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Thank you Jim. I have added you and Jeff to the list. We will need > commitment letters at some point, but not yet. AGA wants to make sure the > next convention is staffed by folks who will follow thru. > > > From: "DAN HAYES" <uncommonsong@msn.com> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:51:07 -0800 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > > Hey Dave. Let me know what I can do to help. I have some extra time right > now, so let me know. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:37:40 -0800 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > > Gee, Dan, there is not a lot to do till we have a request to do something. > > Although SFBAAPS should likely be the bidder on this proposal, it is really > the major players (volunteers) and their written commitment to carry thru > on their promises that will win or lose the deal. So we should all be > thinking if we are sure enough to put our promise to work into writing. > > > From: "DAN HAYES" <uncommonsong@msn.com> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:42:17 -0800 > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > > Got it. If there's anything I can do, let me know. > > Dan > > > > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:25:11 -0800 (PST) > From: Greg Fiske <gfiske2@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005 > > > Dave, I'd like to help in any way I can. I am moving back to > southern California in June, but will still attend the > convention and hopefully can help in some way during the show. > Thanks, Greg > > > > > > > > -- > Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com > http://www.wcf.com/apbook for Kasselmann's "Aquarium Plants" book SPECIAL > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 12/28/2004 > > > _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc