Re: [AGA-sc] They sound serious!

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

Serious counts. But I still don't see who is in charge --
who will actually keep things moving in the right
directions, prevent runaways, etc.

Hmmm-- a 2-hour drive/ride and 2-hours back? That's a long
day just to see a fish store.

It almost sounds like they expect AGA to propose to them
that they do the convention. Perhaps TB didn't understand
when I said I would send the proposal requiremetns and
guidelines doc after the BoD approved a revised version.


sh
--- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Gomberg" <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> To: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:51 PM
> Subject: Log of mail reduced from 3749 lines to 500....
> 
> 
> > As usual, Tom did 70% of the lines and 10% of the info:
> >
> > From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 03:02:28 -0800 (PST)
> > Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > I was talking and thinking at the AGA convention about
> having the
> > meeting this year here in SF or close by.  Who is
> serious about
> > this?  Just me.......okay......  I have a few things to
> say to make
> > this happen here but it'll be worth it and we can have
> a strong turn
> > out here for sure.
> >
> > We need to find a meeting place in about a month for
> Nov's
> > meeting(Veteran's day weekend) with a decent reasonable
> rate but a
> > nice place to be.
> >
> > This will take work, but it will be worth it.  It will
> also help our
> > club.
> >
> > What say you?  A new Year's resolution?  We have 2-3
> speakers here
> > already.  Amano like the west Coast.  Claus does also,
> Dave Wilson
> > from AUST might be interesting.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
> >
> >
> > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:44:34 -0800
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Tom, I looked far and wide a couple of years ago and
> the best deal is
> > Monterey.  I can give a talk sometime about hotel rates
> after owning a
> > motel in South Lake Tahoe for a year and learning a lot
> about the inside
> of
> > the business.   But we ought to be able to make
> something work in Monterey
> > or nearby.
> >
> >
> > From: "bill_harada" <wkharada@hotmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:29:15 -0000
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Is it critical that the actual event location be in a
> "high-profile"
> > city? Everyone loves to visit SFO, but expense is
> always a factor
> > there.
> >
> > Monterey would be great, but travel in for
> out-of-towners would be
> > an added hassle since it's a 90-minute drive from any
> bay-area
> > airports. What about areas like San Jose or somewhere
> on the
> > penninsula?
> >
> > From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:27:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Monterey is doable.  I have some friends there.  We
> also have the
> > best location but it's a far from the central area
> where folks have
> > tanks, LFS's, airport (very important), as a field or
> side trip, it
> > would be good though.  Anything near Oakland airport
> also, or SJ.
> >
> > I'm attending a conference there in Jan and can check
> out the rates.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
> >
> > From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:35:12 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> > SJ, Oakland is fine.
> >
> > The main thing, unless you want everyone to fly here,
> then get
> > cab/rent a car etc and schedule that, many folks come
> in all
> > different hours and need an easy commute to the hotel.
> >
> > I like the area and the MBA a lot.  But the other parts
> with transpo
> > need to be dealt with.  Room rates run about 90$ a
> night or so which
> > is about the deal rate we would get down there based on
> the Western
> > Aqautic Weed management event I'm attending 3 weeks
> from now.
> >
> > I'll see about the transportation issues from SFO from
> those folks.
> >
> > But this is quite doable and the price is right for
> most AGA members
> > and the BOD for AGA.  If we clear that hurdle, then
> this can happen
> > for SFBAAPS.  So there is some incentative for you all.
> >
> > This will help everyone, win win.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
> >
> > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:57:45 -0800
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> >
> > At 08:29 12/26/2004, bill_harada wrote:
> >
> >  >Monterey would be great, but travel in for
> out-of-towners would be
> >  >an added hassle since it's a 90-minute drive from any
> bay-area
> >  >airports.
> >
> > Actually, flights into SFO, OAK, SJO and MRY (Monterey)
> are all the
> > same fare.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:59:46 -0800
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > At 11:35 12/26/2004, Thomas  Barr wrote:
> >  >SJ, Oakland is fine.
> >  >
> >  >The main thing, unless you want everyone to fly here,
> then get cab/rent
> a
> >  >car etc and schedule that, many folks come in all
> different hours and
> need
> >  >an easy commute to the hotel.
> >
> > I have run a meeting in Pebble Beach (right next to
> Monterey) and meeting
> > folks at MRY is a piece of cake.   We met every
> incoming flight that had
> > attendees on it.  There were only about six we had to
> meet.
> >
> >
> > From: "bill_harada" <wkharada@hotmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:18:07 -0000
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Really? I was checking fares on Yahoo and flying into
> MRY was at
> > least $70 more (up to near $300 more) than flying into
> SFO from JFK,
> > DFW, IAD, CHI, and SEA.
> >
> > From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:31:21 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Sounds good.
> > I'll talk to my big boss about it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:41:08 -0800
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > My understanding was that the fare was the same because
> all those airports
> > were considered SFO for fare purposes.   It may be that
> the airlines that
> > have MRY flights cost more?
> >
> > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:47:05 -0800
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > I just checked UAL and it was $318 to SFO from IAD and
> $338 to MRY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:48:45 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Well, folks are ot going to do that much outside of the
> event unless
> > they have plenty of time,come early etc.  So MBA and
> the town are
> > the sale.  Folks can drive there, rent cars, car/Van
> pool etc.
> >
> > Chattanooga was that way for many folks as well(not
> close to main
> > airports).  I drove from Nashville(2.5 hours).
> >
> > We can do the aquarium loop, Albany and Ocean Aquarium,
> perhaps some
> > south bay stuff, or we can send them to the delta in
> Stockton for a
> > boat ride to see real weed issues.  There is also some
> nice parks
> > down HWY 1 south and the Santa CRuz mountains offer a
> lot not far
> > away.  That will be the field trip, a day eariler. 
> Friday, MBA etc.
> >
> > Kayaking in the kelp is also fun and there are enough
> activities
> > there to keep folks busy outside of the event.
> >
> > Mark Faulkner is now been promoted to curator so I'll
> see what we
> > can work out with him, I'm sure a behind the scene tour
> can be
> > arranged, there is no place like MBA and AGA will druel
> about that.
> >
> > So I will certainly look into this.
> >
> > Tom Barr
> >
> > From: "bill_harada" <wkharada@hotmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:50:04 -0000
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Oh, I see now. I was just looking at lowest
> fare...wasn't comparing
> > fares within the same carrier.
> >
> >
> > From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:50:37 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
> >
> >
> >
> > Consider the TN event, very similar as far as location
> issues.
> >
> > Not close to main hubs, but close
> enough(Atlanta/Nashville).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:52:48 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > So are you two interested in really selling this to the
> AGA?  The
> > group will be invigorated, it'll mean a cool thing to
> look forward
> > to later this year.  I'll talk to Karen and Eric Olsen,
> I already
> > did back in Nov and with GWAPA.
> >
> > Our time has come.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
> >
> >
> > From: nycsfo@aol.com
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:38:38 -0500
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > I all for a AGA convention out this way...and Monterey
> sounds like
> > the best bet.  We have connections at the Aquarium via
> Mark, they
> > have the only great white shark in captivity living 100
> days plus
> > and counting, cannery row and all the shops and
> eateries make it
> > nice, and we can perhaps do something in the bay as Tom
> suggests.
> > If Dave says Monterey could be the best venue
> concerning hotel
> > rates, I'd run with it.
> >
> > The best thing for me is I can drag the family down
> there and they
> > will have plenty to do while I attend the "boring plant
> meetings".
> > ;^)
> >
> > So...that's one vote for me for Monterey, and my offer
> of help for
> > the cause.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael Laflamme
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:51:42 -0800 (PST)
> > Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2K5
> >
> >
> > I'm heading down that way and can discuss it with the
> local folks.
> > I sent Eric, Karen, Scott etc a floater prosal, Karen
> and the group
> > seem pretty interested.
> >
> > I think this can and will happen if we have some folks
> willing to
> > help out some here.  I'll deal with Hotel/meeting
> stuff.  I'll
> > speak, I'll help with getting the speakers, folks
> scheduled, etc.
> >
> > We can talk group to group with past host, DWF, GWAPA
> etc for what
> > is required from sfbaaps.  We have many skills within
> the group
> > so......I think it's diverse and large enough to do
> this and will
> > help us all.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
> >
> >
> > From: fdeznaluis@aol.com
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:01:18 EST
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, Please have it there I can get all the vendors I
> had back in 2002 and
> > probably more and not only that I can assure you many
> people will be
> willing to
> > help to make this happen! If my help is any good please
> count me in!
> > Merry Christmas
> > Luis Navarro
> > Houston TX
> >
> >
> > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:51:56 -0800
> > Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been thinking about this some, and think if we
> are to do this we
> > need a committed team.  That means folks who will take
> on and do the job,
> > even if it takes five hours a week for the next year.  
> And putting in a
> 20
> > hour week the week before the meeting (and attending
> the meeting of
> course).
> >
> > Here is the team I have in mind:
> >
> > EmCee         Erik?  Dave?   Tom?   Steve Dixon?
> > Program       TBA
> > Field Trips   Tom Barr
> > Hotel         Dave Gomberg
> > MBA liaison   Mark?
> > Registration  TBA  Naomi?  Andrew?  Troi?
> > Spkr liaison  Karen Randall
> > Local shops   Michael Laflamme
> > Finance       Dave Gomberg
> > Restaurants   TBA  Alan Kaufmann????
> >
> > I did not ask Tom for more because I want him to have
> the time available
> to
> > do a killer job on the field trip(s) as we know only
> Tom can.  I would
> hope
> > he could arrange 2-3 trips if the time permits.   And I
> would like him to
> > give a great talk about them very early in the meeting
> while attendees
> > could still be added.
> >
> > The registration job is to manage the creation of the
> registration packets
> > and make sure they are right and ready when needed.  It
> also involves
> > editing and printing the programs.
> >
> > Alan, the restaurant job means to check out local
> restaurants and prepare
> a
> > restaurant list for attendees.
> >
> > If your name does not appear above but you want to work
> on the convention,
> > please email me off list.
> >
> > Is everyone on board for this?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: nycsfo@aol.com
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 22:14:54 -0500
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Count me in Dave.  I think you selected a proper job
> for me.
> >
> > Michael Laflamme
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:25:59 -0800 (PST)
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> >
> > We could sure use any help and experiences Luis, thanks
> for the kind
> offer.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii@earthlink.net>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:34:36 -0800 (PST)
> > Subject: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Committed? Alan lets me out once a week:)
> >
> > "I have been thinking about this some,"
> >
> > Most of us have been:-)
> >
> > " and think if we are to do this we
> > need a committed team.  That means folks who will take
> on and do the job,
> > even if it takes five hours a week for the next year.  
> And putting in a
> 20
> > hour week the week before the meeting (and attending
> the meeting of
> course)."
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> >
> > "EmCee         Erik?  Dave?   Tom?   Steve Dixon?"
> >
> > No problem if needed.
> >
> > "Field Trips   Tom Barr"
> >
> > Already done.
> >
> > "I did not ask Tom for more because I want him to have
> the time available
> to
> > do a killer job on the field trip(s) as we know only
> Tom can.  I would
> hope
> > he could arrange 2-3 trips if the time permits.   And I
> would like him to
> > give a great talk about them very early in the meeting
> while attendees
> > could still be added."
> >
> > Sure.  I'd like to add folks as they wish to hop on
> board as well.
> > Mark also knows the place near by very well.
> >
> > "The registration job is to manage the creation of the
> registration
> packets
> > and make sure they are right and ready when needed.  It
> also involves
> > editing and printing the programs."
> >
> > This will be work.
> >
> > "Alan, the restaurant job means to check out local
> restaurants and prepare
> a
> > restaurant list for attendees."
> >
> > There's a ton of food places in Monterey to eat at.
> > Ideally a semi short walk to MBA for the location.
> >
> > Scott is going to send the formal proposal after the
> BOD approves it from
> > the AGA.
> > I will forward this to everyone for viewing.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom Barr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jim Lockhart <jlockhar@cisco.com>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:36:52 -0800
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Count me in too, I'm sure there is a ton of stuff we
> will need volunteers
> > for. Monterey would be great, I'm heading down there
> for a couple of days
> > right now.
> >
> > I think Jeff and I could do a good job on the plant
> auction.
> >
> > It puts places like Albany about 2+ hours drive away,
> but I guess we can
> > work that out as many of us will have cars down there.
> >
> > How many people on average attend the AGA conference ?
> >
> > Very exciting, lets arrange a get-together in Jan to
> discuss this in more
> > detail. OH Volunteers ?
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:50:44 -0800
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Thank you Jim.   I have added you and Jeff to the list.
>   We will need
> > commitment letters at some point, but not yet.   AGA
> wants to make sure
> the
> > next convention is staffed by folks who will follow
> thru.
> >
> >
> > From: "DAN HAYES" <uncommonsong@msn.com>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:51:07 -0800
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Dave. Let me know what I can do to help. I have
> some extra time right
> > now, so let me know.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg1@wcf.com>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:37:40 -0800
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> >
> > Gee, Dan, there is not a lot to do till we have a
> request to do something.
> >
> > Although SFBAAPS should likely be the bidder on this
> proposal, it is
> really
> > the major players (volunteers) and their written
> commitment to carry thru
> > on their promises that will win or lose the deal.  So
> we should all be
> > thinking if we are sure enough to put our promise to
> work into writing.
> >
> >
> > From: "DAN HAYES" <uncommonsong@msn.com>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:42:17 -0800
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> >
> > Got it. If there's anything I can do, let me know.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:25:11 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Greg Fiske <gfiske2@sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: SFBAAPS: AGA 2005
> >
> >
> > Dave, I'd like to help in any way I can.&nbsp; I am
> moving back to
> > southern California in June, but will still attend the
> > convention and hopefully can help in some way during
> the show.
> > Thanks, Greg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dave Gomberg, San Francisco   NE5EE     gomberg1 at wcf
> dot com
> > http://www.wcf.com/apbook  for Kasselmann's "Aquarium
> Plants" book SPECIAL
> >
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