Besides which, you don't develop new stars. No one had heard of Claus
either until I talked Janine into brining him to NEC. No one had heard
of Christel until her book came out in English, although she was just
as knowledgeable BEFORE the book.
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: S. Hieber
To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Reaction?
Imo, go for one of Karen's. she mentioned talking to Claus about a
recommendation. I'd like to move forward that way. Next year would be a
better time for Christel.. Without some time lapse inbetween, we will
burn through all our stars too quickly or too frequently.
sh
----- Original Message ----
From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
To: aga-sc@thekrib.com
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:28:13 PM
Subject: [AGA-sc] Reaction?
Jim is asking about Christel again. Seems to me she just spoke at NEC
last year; we'd be better off getting one of Karen's suggestions. Any
thoughts from you guys?
--
Erik Olson
erik at thekrib dot com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:19:25 -0500
From: jiml1029@aim.com
To: erik@thekrib.com
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] No Dave Wilson (fwd)
Erik,
I read Karens suggestions, and I think it might be a good opportunity
to introduce some new blood to the key presenters in this area. I have
the feeling that the demand for speakers in the aquatic plant arena
will continue.
We exhausted my speaker list (Prof Tan, Claus, Dave), but I did have
one more thought. Would it be reasonable to try for Kasselmann again. I
thought her recent articles in TAG on her Brazil trip were about the
best I've seen on field expeditions that I've seen in a while. She did
bring out another book here in the US this past year, which had more of
an Aquarium focus. She is a "name" in the hobby.
Just a thought,
Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
To: jiml1029@aim.com
Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:27:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] No Dave Wilson (fwd)
Karen definitely has some ideas (see the message thread below). I just
wanted to figure out if you or SFBAAPS had any other preferred speakers
before we ran off and contacted someone.
- Erik
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, jiml1029@aim.com wrote:
> Well I guess we have taken Claus Christiansen off the table. I
suspect
> there is depth in europe, with Tropica and denerle, and the fact that
> >
the dutch and germans have been at this so long. There has to be
someone
> else over there that would be a candidate, just can think of the
> names.
>
> Would Karen have any suggestions ?
>
> Would we want to consider Amano again ?
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> To: jiml1029@aim.com
> Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:28:59 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] No Dave Wilson (fwd)
>
>
> Do you have any opinion on alternate speakers, Jim?
>
> -- Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:33:19 -0800 (PST)
> From: S. Hieber <shieber@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] No Dave Wilson
>
> Who's not interested in substrate? And there's a whole cult in the
hobby that seeks the better substrate -- whther these folks will pay
for a convention, I don't know, but I know topic gets airplay on
forums.
>
> sh
>
> * * * * * * * * * * *
> November too cold? Too hot? How would you like to spend part of it
in San Francisco? Cable cars, Lombard St., Chinatown -- and a simply
huge aquatic plant auction.
>
> The 2006 Aquatic Gardeners Association Convention will be November
10-12 at the Sheraton Gateway Hotel -- San Francisco International
Airport.
>
> Details will be posted soon at http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:31:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] No Dave Wilson
>
> Both speak good enough English that I correspond with them
regularly. They
> both WRITE better English than Claus does, so I expect that their
spoke
> English is also quite understandable. Ole is a good photographer,
and a
> university professor, so I'm sure he can lecture. Troels has the
back up of
> all of Tropica, so I am also sure that, with Claus' help, even if he
doesn't
> have his own pictures, he can get together what he needs for a good
> presentation.
>
> Ole would probably speak more on plants in the wild, while Troels is
doing
> R&D at Tropica now, and I think could have a very different type of
> presentation than some we've had.
>
> Here is an excerpt from Troels' first letter to me, when Claus first
> introduced us:
>
> "During my study in Biology and following Ph.D I have been working
with
> experimentally studies on aquatic plants for several years -
however, these
> studies has been on species in lakes and at field conditions. The
studies
> has been focussing on the plant response to changing environmental
> conditions - e.g. CO2, nutrients and light - and how these
parameters
> interact on the uptake of nutrients and growth in the plants.
Furthermore, I
> have also studied the impact of the parameters on plant vegetated
ecosystem
> (for example the importance of decrecing light for the release of
nutrient
> from the sediment/plants to the water resulting in incresing growth
of algae
> in the water column). Unfortunately, aquariums are a new world for
me, but a
> very exiting challenge which I look forward to meet!
>
> My first assignment will focus on development of a bottom material
to
> aquarium tanks - a material which can retain and supply with
nutrients with
> a rate that can support the growth of the plants without releasing
more than
> necessary to the water column. Hopefully, the material can also
contribute
> to the structure and biological processes in the bottom of the tank.
The
> following assignments will focus on nutrient pills and dissolved
nutrient
> stocks."
>
>
> If we are seriously interested in one of them, I can ask Claus for a
> recommendation. But I didn't want to bother Claus with it earlier,
as it
> looked like the crew kind of had their minds set on either Professor
Tan
> and/or Dave Wilson.
>
>
> Karen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Lampert" <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
> To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] No Dave Wilson
>
>> Karen,
>>
>> Have you heard either or do you have any information
>> on their presentation skills and possible
>> presentations? Ole does seem to be the more well
>> known.
>>
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
>>
>>> I still think either Ole Pedersen or Troels
>>> Andersen. Troels might be a
>>> little easier to get, Ole is better known.
>>>
>>> Karen
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
>>> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>; <jiml1029@aim.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:12 AM
>>> Subject: [AGA-sc] No Dave Wilson
>>>
>>>
>>>> So much for Tom and his sure thing.
>>>>
>>>> Backup plans, anyone?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Erik Olson
>>>> erik at thekrib dot com
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:12:10 +0930
>>>> From: Dave Wilson <aqua.green@bigpond.com>
>>>> To: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: AGA 2006 Convention Speaker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Erik,
>>>>
>>>> Wow, what a way to make a person feel honoured and
>>> proud. The people in
>>>> the AGA and SFBAPS have been my guide in setting
>>> up planted aquaria and
>>>> have
>>>> helped in ways they could never know.
>>>>
>>>> I left the public Aquarium a few years ago and
>>> have been struggling
>>>> setting
>>>> up a small aquatic plant business in the real
>>> world for a while now.
>>>> Unfortunately it is at a stage where I can only
>>> get away for short time,
>>>> one
>>>> or two days at most. Thanks for the very kind
>>> offer however I must say
>>>> no.
>>>>
>>>> My wife Robyn and I plan to take a trip to the US
>>> in a few years time and
>>>> I
>>>> hope to visit to the public aquaria over there at
>>> Monterey Bay and
>>>> Baltimore. I want to visit the Australian
>>> exhibit at Baltimore as I
>>>> helped
>>>> John Seyjagat the Curator access Australian fish,
>>> reptiles and plants for
>>>> the exhibit.
>>>>
>>>> The future trip will coincide with the Aquatic
>>> Gardeners Association
>>>> Convention where ever it is at that time.
>>>>
>>>> Once again thanks for the invitation and generous
>>> offer.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 19/3/06 3:28 PM, "Erik Olson"
>>> <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> The AGA and San Francisco Bay Area Aquatic Plant
>>> Society have been
>>>>> working
>>>>> for a while to organize the 2006 convention this
>>> November, and as of
>>>>> today
>>>>> we've finally secured a hotel and date. Your
>>> name was actually at the
>>>>> top
>>>>> of the list by the SFBAAPS folks, and I concur.
>>> But I wanted to wait
>>>>> until that point before formally inviting you to
>>> speak there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can give some details right now if that helps:
>>> It will be held the
>>>>> weekend of November 11th, talks will be on
>>> Saturday, and there may be a
>>>>> field trip on Friday. If you have a second
>>> presentation (especially if
>>>>> it's a lighter or shorter one), we would love to
>>> have you be our banquet
>>>>> speaker as well. There are four other speakers,
>>> but as the "guest
>>>>> speaker", the convention will pay your airfare,
>>> hotel and banquet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you be interested? Any questions I could
>>> answer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> - Erik
>>>>> AGA President and unofficial speaker wrangler
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