I thought the manufacturers donated the goods and that was why the organization wasn't supposed to contact them separately. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Greetings (fwd) > The basic arrangement, except for tax purposes, is that, in essence, the > club buys the goods for a flat fee and Ray presents them for one or two > days, then they go into auction on behalf of the club. In exchange for > presenting the goods, the goods-makers pay Ray's trans. The club also > pay's Ray's room and board. Ray also auctioneers, although I've only seen > this at a few bigger events. > > I just want us to be clear up front what is usual or unusual in the > arrangement we made this year. > > > sh > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: S. Hieber <shieber@yahoo.com> > To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:37:00 AM > Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Greetings (fwd) > > > Also, Ray usually has some basic requirements. These are quoted from the > ones he gave us for AGA2K4. Will all they apply in AGA2K6: > > # Ray's Hotel and Food costs incurred during the event. > # 8 - 8' tables or 10 - 6' tables for display purposes. > # Secured, lockable room for displays. > # Your event must be a 2 - 3 day event. > # Products must be displayed until Sunday A.M. > # 1 year Membership corresponding Membership. (publication only) > # Individual thank you letters for the donated products and Ray's service > to each manufacturer. > # If Kingfish Services is attending your event, you must not write to the > represented manufacturers asking for donations for your event. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com> > To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:52:58 AM > Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Greetings (fwd) > > > Hi, > I never heard about a basic fee... > > Did this happen at the ACA larry??? > > K > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, S. Hieber wrote: > >> The usual deal was the Fee plus room and board (btw, Ray is not at all >> outlandish with he meal reimbursement requests). >> >> So is the basic fee not being charged? I don't recall the amount but >> something like $1500 or so-- this essentially bought the goods that would >> be donated to the auction. >> >> sh >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> >> To: aga-sc@thekrib.com >> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:09:17 AM >> Subject: [AGA-sc] Greetings (fwd) >> >> >> Hi folks. >> >> Kathy talked with Ray this evening and got the skinny... >> >> He really wants to come out and do this. Part of it is that he really >> wants to help out; part of it is that he wants to visit San Francisco and >> one of his sponsors (which is cool). He has apparently put aside other >> commitments in order to make the date. >> >> Costs: Hotel for three nights, plus food. He would pay transportation. >> Sounds like around $500 to me. >> >> Features: 45 gallon bowfront aquarium delivered to winner's home store, >> as >> opposed to having to be local. I suspect this will up the auction price >> on such a thing, and will pay for 1/3 of that fee right away. Could we >> sell another $300 worth of the dry goods he brings? Probably. >> >> At MINIMUM, it'll give us three more roomnights, more vendor >> room presence, and some more interest in the auction. I don't think we >> would be out more than a couple hundred bucks. >> >> In addition, it's some new information for the mid-September e-mail/forum >> blast (in addition to hotel xtn and split rate info). The name will >> certainly draw a few more local fish folks to the auction. >> >> I said OK, and Kathy called him back. I hope this is OK with you guys as >> well. If not, I beg forgiveness, and you can all flog me personally at >> the convention and thereafter until December 1st. >> >> Oh, and Scott, you'll get your stats on this one. I'll print out a >> special set of colored tags for Ray's items that will have a particular >> numerical range, so we will know EXACTLY how much they brought in. >> >> - Erik >> >> PS: Kathy also talked to Jeff Senske -- he's going to be bringing some >> ADA >> stuff for donation. They're also entering the aquascaping contest this >> year (which is good, because there's a PATHETIC turnout in the biotope >> and >> paludarium categories. Gotta keep up that reputation that "the Senske's >> always win", instead of "those guys from Hong Kong always win"). >> >> -- >> Erik Olson >> erik at thekrib dot com >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:25:16 -0400 >> From: kingfish <kingfish51@verizon.net> >> To: Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com> >> Subject: Greetings >> >> Hi Kathy & Erik >> >> Kingfish Services is here to help, the AGA shall be responsible for my >> Hotel & Meals for the weekend, I shall ship all my products to San >> Francisco Bay Brand then I can get the deliever to the hotel when time >> comes, as for the Aquarium Set Up I shall get a letter from All-Glass >> stating the bearer of this letter is to recieve a 46 Gallon Bow Front >> Aquarium Set Up Tank Hood & Light, the rest of the products that go into >> the tank I shall bring to the Convention, I shall fly into SF area on >> thursday and try and fly out on Sunday if possible but if not I shall eat >> the extra night hotel cost, What else can I do to help. I wish to help >> where I can to help ease the pain on you and Erik, Scott & Karen, BOD, >> yes >> other need to come forward and help. Again people are coming to these >> conventions for Fish & Plants, so I have strongly suggested to set up a >> quick sale table, all day Friday & Saturday, maned by volunteers of the >> local group, its quick cash in the clubs pocket, set the prices >> reasonable >> but don't give it away. I think this can helps some of the clubs cash >> flow >> problems, the ACA Chicago people informed me today they made over >> $2,000.00 cash on my products, yes more people attend the ACA the AGA >> needs to look at future Conventions Please use me as a consultant I am >> here to Help. >> >> Thanks for being there >> Kingfish >> Yes I would like if possible a copy of the dvd of the ACA since I am >> there to work and never get to hear the speakers, PLEASE. >> Yes Erik I am working on a Legends II for the future and Yes the Olson's >> shall be recording it for history. Maybe an Oscar or Emmy in the Future. >> >> Kingfish >> _______________________________________________ >> AGA-sc mailing list >> AGA-sc@thekrib.com >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AGA-sc mailing list >> AGA-sc@thekrib.com >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc >> > _______________________________________________ > AGA-sc mailing list > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > > _______________________________________________ > AGA-sc mailing list > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > > _______________________________________________ > AGA-sc mailing list > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc