My reply to Michael. Note that the only reason I even bother with long replies is that he's a good guy and he's going to bat for us even though he's not really involved with SFBAAPS much anymore. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 14:59:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> To: nycsfo@aol.com Subject: Re: A/V needs... > Considering we are using one of their conference rooms, are bringing folks in > to stay in their hotel, etc., can't they just provide us with a screen at no > additional cost? Ah, well, it's not exactly like we're doing the hotel a favor here... we have a specific contract that says exactly how many hotel nights have to be booked before we don't pay the $5000 meeting room rental charge, and how much food we have to buy from the hotel as well. Point being, all this is worked out beforehand. Once the contract is signed, many hotels count every service as an extra charge, and some of those charges are incredibly overpriced, like extension cord rental for $10 per day that show up on the bill at the end. This is where they make a lot of their money. Sheraton as a chain is notorious for this (though it seems like this particular Sheraton is being very good to us). This is why I'm so adamant about things like having enough extension cords handy, or doing all the A/V except for the audio patch and screen by ourselves. The screen is one of those necessary evils. Maybe the hotel will be happy to lend us a ladder to put stuff up, but you can bet that if people regularly used their ladder, they'd have a rental charge for it. Screens are very specific rental items and have very specific costs tied to them. I have never seen a hotel throw in a decent screen (10x10 foot or so), whether that be a little convention like ours, or a bigger national convention like American Cichlid Association (which brings in 500 people). > If you can secure the projectors...great. If not, and you are still short of > a back up, I'll definately get one from my wife's office. I will post a request on conheads as time approaches. > P.S. Seems like you brought some SFBAAPS folks out of the woodwork with that > flap over trying to sign onto our list. Too bad it takes a threat to their > "manhood" to get them involved. I haven't seen any more posts since, so I > don't know if they are still around or have crawled back under the covers. I don't think much has changed. Bill is still behaving like a child (rather than the professional/parent Skids defended him as), refusing to answer my e-mails directly, only responding if Jim asks, and then only to Jim, so Jim has to forward his answers to me via the phone. Gomberg is still being his usual self on the list. I am hoping he will hold it together long enough to get the items for the auction to the hotel, before lapsing into his "What's in it for me?" mode. There is evidence of this beginning to crack, though, as he has asked if the AGA will sell his books for him in the vendor room. I am doing my best not to do a spit take when another request comes through via Jim. "Can the AGA get a corporate sponsorship for the Iron Aquascaper plants and materials?" (No, the AGA...actually my wife... did all the corporate soliciting a month ago. We cannot go back and bug them again and ask for more) "Can the AGA waive the $20 membership fee requirement for SFBAAPS members who just joined and want to attend?" (Um, no, that would be unfair to those who already paid) "Can the AGA pay for Eric Do's room?" (Um, we had assumed he was local and would not need a room, one of the reasons we got him as a speaker). There are a few people who have volunteered, but even there, Cheryl just reported that about half the SFBAAPS volunteers on Jim's list haven't actually registered for the convention. One of them is supposed to help with the field trip...but he won't even be able to go on it! I am immensely relieved that we seem to have hit some of the major milestones. The major work is done. Now we transition to execution. - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc