Changed the subject line for posterity.
Sure. We could ask folks to nominate people that they
think would like to be involved in the MC (explain what it is, and that the BOD
is the voting body, so that no one gets their feelings hurt) and tell them they
can even nominate themselves.
I think it would be important to state that one important quality
that we look for in MC members is the ability to work with other people who
might have different opinions while remaining civil. There’s probably
a more PC way of saying it, but you know what I mean. We want to avoid
Dave Gomberg and a couple of others from nominating themselves. We don’t
want to put ourselves in the position of turning people down because we don’t
think we can work with them, or we will REALLY make enemies. And we’ve
seen how just ONE difficult person can turn every single BOD or MC discussion
into a marathon of arguing that makes you want to turn off your e-mail.
Although it’s still (thank GOD) quite a way off, I also
think that it would be good if we could find time during the convention weekend
to have an informal “meet the BOD time”, where people could get to
know us and express an interest in helping out. We did that a few times
in the beginning… I think that’s how we found Scott (little did he
know…<he, he, he>). And if we don’t have Amano, we can
actually PLAN our time better. If we’d stayed on schedule, there
would have even been time between the talks Sat. afternoon and the banquet.
If the hotel has a similar set-up to the Atlanta hotel, we could do it as
informally as saying, “Hey, the BOD will be eating lunch in the Starbucks
café. Come grab a sandwich and join us if you have an interest in the
planning and direction of AGA in the future, blah, blah, blah.”
There was plenty of room there.
Karen
From: aga-sc-bounces@thekrib.com
[mailto:aga-sc-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Rogers
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:38 PM
To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] New BOD member?
Okay, so how can we invite the MEMBERS to feel more involved
in their own organization? Could they nominate some folks and we can pick the
most highly qualified ones? All of this published in TAG, of course. :-)
Cheryl
S. Hieber wrote:
If
you change the by-laws, you have to refile with the state of Mass, and then, I
belive that will trip having to refile status with the IRS.
I
don't think the original bylaws limited the number of Board Members, so we can
add without changing bylaws.
As
for democracy, I submit that George Bush was elected twice ( well, sort of.
Enough said).
I
further submit that it's unlikely to find candidates that are well known
to a broad number of members and elections would likely result in a poor man's
form of post-WWII Italian goverments, with a multitude of small popularity
contests in competition. Actually, the Post-WWII Italian governments coalesced
frequently and variously into different coalitions with some organization,
albeit short-lived. For aquatic gardeners, I think things would be even less
organized. And there would be no indication of how much any particular person
would be willing to actually do.
If,
and I only say if, we were going to change things, I'd rather see Board
positons having specific job/task assignments and then appointing folks based
on their accepting the responsibility of the job/tasks.
From: Larry Lampert <l_lampert@yahoo.com>
To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 9:07:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] New BOD member?
Yes, although I do agree that Phil's Board nomination has merit, I think the
number of Board members issue should be addressed first.
I also believe that the Board needs to be an elected position with term limits
of some type. This way the membership will hopefully feel more connected to the
organization and the Board positions will not be diluted as Erik mentioned.
I have brought this up before on list and off list with nearly all of you, I
recall from previous discussions we have had that this will require a change in
our by-laws.
Getting back to Phil, I did spend some time although brief discussing his
future involvement in AGA. We did even talk about a possible Board position He
was open to it but there was nothing committal. Has he expressed a specific
interest in the Board position? That would be great if he is.
I did also speak with Ben Van Dither also. He will be a great add to the MCMC.
I have also talked to Efren and he would be interested in being added to the
MCM.
I agree with Karen, energy post-convention is still unusually high and we
should take advantage of this to try to continue this by adding folks into the
MCM. I also think we need to take a look at who is on the MCM and possibly
remove some folks from there as well.
Regards,
Larry
--- On Fri, 11/28/08, Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
wrote:
> From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] New BOD member?
> To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 6:41 PM
> I'm OK with this -- both worked their tail off at the
> convention. My only
> concern is whether the board is a continually-expanding
> set, or whether
> folks should also retire as others come in.
>
> - Erik
>
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Karen Randall wrote:
>
> >
> > I was wondering what the rest of you thought about the
> possibility of inviting Phil onto the
> > BOD. He certainly put a tremendous amount of effort
> into the convention, and seems to be on
> > track to continue his work for AGA going forward.
> The Atlanta convention ould have been much
> > harder without his “on the ground” help. I think
> we need to consider “growing” this group to
> > include more people to share the work. Phil not only
> is a hard worker, but seems to be someone
> > that gets along well with everyon else on the board.
> What do you all think?
> >
> >
> >
> > Likewise., I hope you don’t think I was overstepping
> my boundaries, but I invited Ben Van
> > Dinther to join the Management Committee. He also
> worked very hard on the convention on a
> > number of fronts, and has expressed an interest in
> becoming more involved in the “work” of AGA…
> > I don’t think we can afford to turn away that kind
> of enthusiasm! Cheryl and I started to have
> > a conversation at the convention about other people
> whom we might want to ask to join the MC,
> > but then work got in the way of finishing the
> conversation!<g> Do any of you have any other
> > names to put forth? This is the time to “catch”
> people, when enthusiasm is still high from the
> > convention!
> >
> >
> >
> > Karen
> >
> >
> >
>
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