Mark Dierker wrote: >I raise red wigglers also, and If I had to guess, I would say what you are >seeing are baby red wigglers I don't think these are red wriggler babies because according to the literature the worms mate at the bottom of the box, and when I've done bedding changes, the tiny ones all seem to be down there. These white ones are new. I've had the box going now for almost a year and this is the first time I've seen clumps of these white worms grouped inside the lid. I'm wondering if they are some type of planaria or a relative of microworms. Also, the pH of the box contents is modified by lots of crumbled eggshells, so I don't think it's too acidic. The worms do go through a heck of a lot of food though. I only relatively recently started feeding them bread because they looked kind of skinny living on a veggie only diet. I put in an entire bagel and 5 large slices of bread three weeks ago and in 10 days there was nothing left. The adult worms are really fat and healthy that's for sure. I took a few clumps of these worms and put them in the guppy tank. Not a single worm made it to a depth of 3 inches. It was feeding frenzy time in guppyland. Impressive. At least now I'll have something to give my larger baby apistos that I don't have to purposely culture or hatch. (Too lazy for baby brine shrimp hatchery maintenance - or too busy. Take your pick.) I've also powdered the inside lid with a bit of oatmeal pablum. Maybe they'll like it even better than whatever it is that they were feeding on before. Gabriella Kadar ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!