Hi Helen. I was going to phone you last night, and was searching for your number when this came up. Catching them was a doodle, mind you their minds could have been elsewhere, it was a case of net in - place underneath - lift up, they obviously didn't notice it as a threat. I suppose it should have twigged with me at that point something was strange. I'll have to get some brine shrimp on the go tonight, as I wasn't expecting any new broods, and last night was a bit confusing - I got about two hours sleep once my brain switched off. The size of fry is smaller than most dwarfs I have seen, and a notch or so smaller than I would expect from nijsenni, no sign I can see of egg sacks. I'll watch for the line. By the way, Denise spent last night laughing at me and the fry. I don't know what she reckoned was the most intelligent. Any miss spelling, bad grammar, incoherence etc can all be blamed on the lack of sleep. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!