Hello all, first, I would like to say thank you to everyone who has provided me with information, and just thanks to everyone on the list for providing so much helpful knowledge with respect to dwarf cichlids. I must have learned something: my altispinosa have spawned! I would still be totally stumped on gender if it weren't for the fact that the female is now "skinny" and is actively guarding the eggs (conveniently located on a rock near the front of the tank for easy viewing). The dorsal fin on both the male and female of the pair is pointed on the trailing edge, although the male has developed a rather long filament on that trailing edge. The aggression level in the tank has dropped significantly, and the third fish is no longer being hassled unless it gets too close to the clutch. It does seem avidly interested in getting close to the eggs, and I can imagine if the female were less vigilant they might be eaten. At the current tank temp of 78 deg. F, approximately how long might it take the eggs to hatch? If they do hatch, what can I feed the fry? I have no hope of hatching any brine shrimp nauplii in time (or any time, for that matter...I'm hopeless at that sort of thing)--the debate over feeding fry on flake may well be academic, but it's all I've got, besides perhaps adding in a dose of mulm from another of my tanks and hoping the microfauna will suffice. Has anyone tried that trick with success? The spawning tank is well established but rather "clean", because it's had very low light and stocking levels forever and doesn't have too much in the way of grazing material for hungry fry. Anyway, I think I'll be able to curb my questions once the fry hatch! In the meantime, all I can ask of you is patience. Thanks, and as always suggestions are appreciated Sarah LeGates __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!