Hi, thanks all for your inputs. I've dreams of Crenicichla, but as I like the ideas of "trying to mimic nature" setups, and as I've been really impressed by my cardinalis preying on Pelvicachromis fry (thing i could not imagine before), iI try to imagine setups where the fish would be in living conditions where I would be able to see them acting like in the wild. But, maybe i should fantasm on a multithousand liter setup to mimic seminatural conditions for dwarfs cichlids. wishing you scaly dreams for the last year of the century, please forgive me my continental english... Colin Dujardin border line topic: I can't find the "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives" while searching Altavista. If somebody can mail me the trick to get to the archives, TIA. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!