And Ken don't you know how long it takes before a female is ready to spawn again? **Sorry, what do you mean? This is what I put in my previous posting: "Can somebody tell me how long it takes before a female cackatoo is ready to spawn again. **With good feeding a female can spawn again in two weeks or so but if leading fry she is probably happy to look after them for at least a month before spawning again." Ken. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!