Re: Shell Dwellers?

["K & D Martin" <martndk@ibm.net>]

Kathy!! Thank you, good suggestions, i'll look into getting the book.  I'm
going to move the convicts and jack dempseys from my 35 gallon out to the
garage (to my husband's annoyance! heh heh) and put my brichardi in there
and let my daughter put  a couple of guppies or mebbe some fry for a few
weeks (convict of course, they are coming out my ears),  she can keep the
5.5 gallon.  Going to look into setting up a 10 gallon at work.  I am going
to join the TCA, i'm just lazy.  I keep saying i'm going to join the
officer's wives club too but somehow something comes up each month during
the luncheon.  I am SOOOOO lazy.  I fall back on my 3rd child as an excuse,
he's only 5 mos old so i tell everyone i'm just too busy, heh hah!  As we
all know, babies this age spend a lot of time sleeping.
Do you think the brichardis can mix with a shell dweller or should they have
their own tank?  I'd really like to try some of these guys.

kym
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com>
To: <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: Shell Dwellers?


> Oops on that last one guys, I meant to keep it off list, since I didn't oh
> well.
>
> Bailin....where did you find the boulengeri....I have been looking for
> those guys forever.
> I hear they are alittle more aggressive then the typical shell dwellers
> and harder to spawn, but look like beautiful fish.  I buffer my water with
> magnesium carbonate and calcium carbonate.  Lots of shells in the tank.
> Cichlid exchange does a nice job with the Lake T. salts.
>
> On another note for Kym (KD Martin), Ad Konings book is awesome...you can
> get it from ACA http://www.persforum.com/acamember (if that is a member
> only site then try the general aca site, or the cichlid exchange sells
> them as well).
> On shell dwellers  Neolamprologus (and occasionaly the species are under
> lamprologus..the names keep changing even in the last
> year)...multifasciatus, similus, gold occelatus and speciousus are all
> good.  I have spawned all those guys as well as the pearly occelatus...aka
> mellagrus...the later was much more aggressive.  The speciosus are really
> pretty fish and I don't see them around a lot, I thought they were much
> milder than the gold occelatus who can get aggressive with each other.
>
> Kathy England is a good source in texas....I know she is part of the Texas
> Cichlid assoc.
>
> On the Brichardi, we spawned those in a 60 gallon, definitely go with the
> 35 gallon tank.  10 is way too small and you would likely see aggression
> soon.
> In a 5 gallon tank I would say think about killis, livebearers, or as some
> people have said borelli.  I never do apisto's in smaller than a 10, but
> have heard of others doing 5 gallon tanks.  David Soares, believe in 20
> gallons or up for his fish.
>
> Kathy
>
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Bailin Shaw wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Again off list, but I can't find a good site that will give descriptions
of
> > shell dweller care.  I have 4 - 0.5 inch Neolamprologus boulengeri shell
> > dwellers.  I've only had them about a week and would like to know how
often
> > to do water changes, what to add as far as buffering, and would a larger
> > tank be better.  Any information and sites on these little guys would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Bailin
> > >From: "dominic stones" <apisto@planeteer.com>
> > >Reply-To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com
> > >To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > >Subject: RE: dwarf fish
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:38:34 -0500
> > >
> > >I know this is very off topic, but having kept many shelldwellers and
> > >various other species of lamprologines, I would be very hesitant about
> > >putting any of them in a 5.5.  N. multifasciatus is, I believe, a
colony
> > >breeder and does not do well unless in a group. In my experience,
> > >Lamprologus ocellatus have been the least aggressive (I spawned a pair
in a
> > >15 gal). Another factor to remember is that Tanganyikan, Malawian and
> > >Victorian cichlids all tend to be quite finicky in regards to nitrate
> > >levels. These would be difficult to maintain in an office 5.5.
> > >
> > >At least, that's my experience so far. I would have to agree with other
> > >suggestions like borelli.
> > >
> > >Good luck
> > >
> > >dominic
> > >
> > >oh, and btw - i've had N. brichardi and N. pulcher beat the @#$%^ out
of
> > >everything else in a 100 and 130. Once they start guarding fry, they
are
> > >extremely territorial and dangerous.
> >
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