To repeat something that was mentioned earlier, tetras in general can pick off new fry. If you don't care, then they are good dithers. If you do care then try pencilfish. -----Original Message----- From: CarlHans@aol.com [mailto:CarlHans@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 1:42 PM To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: Re: Apisto Beginner Walter: I still consider myself a beginner apisto-keeper. I have a tank almost identical to what you propose, but it's taken me longer to come to the realization that your setup could be close to the ideal. I'd skip the angelfish, as they'll grow too large for the other fish. Caucatoides seems to prefer slightly more alkaline water than that preferred by the neons and the rummynose, though, but I've not noticed a problem with any in my water (pH 6.5, about 2-3 degrees hardness, 78 deg f.). My only other comment is to have roots, rocks, and plants break up the line of sight along the bottom so the female apistos may have separate territories. Carl In a message dated 01/25/2000 4:05:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, 95ighara@scar.utoronto.ca writes: << Hi, I am thinking of currently setting up a 33 gallon tank heavily planted and I would like to hear any comments with this type of set-up: 1 male and 2 female Cockatoo cichlids 7 Rummy-nose Tetra (as Dithers) 5 Ottocinclus sp 9 Cardinal Tetra or 5 Angelfish 7 Yamato Shrimp Also I was wondering if Angelfish, Rummy-nose tetra or the Cardinals would be considered a good dither fish? If the cichlids breed would the cardinal, Rummy-nose Tetra or Angelfish would pose a problem? Also is the tank overpopulated? Thanks ******************************************* Black holes are where God divided by zero. Walter (95ighara@scar.utoronto.ca) ******************************************* >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!