Mike & Diane Wise wrote: > > Gary & Kathy, > > A. nijsseni and A. hippolytae are about as distantly related as any two apisto > species can get. > A. nijsseni is an advanced species with reduced cephalic pores. It appears to be > part of the pertensis lineage (pertensis/iniridae-, gibbiceps/brevis-, > agassizii/candidi-, trifasciata-, and cacatuoides/nijsseni-groups). A. hippolytae > is from the most primitive lineage, the steindachneri-lineage (steindachneri/Rio > Preto do Candeias-group). These species have more in common with the closely > related genus Gymnogeophagus than do other apistos. They have a full set of > cephalic pores, narrow lateral band, humeral (flank) patch, and scales with light > central areas. We are just looking at "evolutionary convergence" like dolphins, > sharks, and ichthyosaurs. > > Mike Wise Hi Mike, Agreed - which is why I mentioned it as trivia. It is a wonderful convergence from two lineages like that, something I never would have seen, even though I know both fish, had I not put them side by side. Interesting bunch of fish we discuss here. I like the fact one can be surprised by even familiar species. Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!